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03-25-2007, 09:19 PM
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#16 | | Only a drop of the Sea
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Originally Posted by Peatrical What's insane about scientifically sound and accurate dating methods? This guy claim dinosaurs were around 4000 thousand years ago, which is like I said nonsense. Not to mention he has no credentials. | Attacks against the person doesn't mean they're wrong in another area.
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03-25-2007, 09:29 PM
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#17 | | Lost Dog
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Originally Posted by Adam K Attacks against the person doesn't mean they're wrong in another area. | He has no credentials, his theories are the ramblings of a mad man. He has a) no scientific evidence, b) no scientific credibility, and c) no repute due to his tax evasion. Why should anyone listen to him?
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03-25-2007, 09:31 PM
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#18 | | Only a drop of the Sea
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Originally Posted by Peatrical He has no credentials, his theories are the ramblings of a mad man. He has a) no scientific evidence, b) no scientific credibility, and c) no repute due to his tax evasion. Why should anyone listen to him? | If you could prove (a) and (b) then I'd hand it to you.
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03-25-2007, 09:43 PM
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#19 | | ideomancer & ailurian (貓)
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Originally Posted by Adam K If you could prove (a) and (b) then I'd hand it to you. | Why don't you present his evidence? |
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03-25-2007, 09:43 PM
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#20 | | is not amused
Joined: Feb 2001 Location: OH-IO!!!!! Posts: 7,567
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Originally Posted by Adam K If you could prove (a) and (b) then I'd hand it to you. | I would like you to prove that his "theories" are correct. Can you do that? Until you can, I choose to NOT believe ANYTHING that man has to say about anything.
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03-25-2007, 09:46 PM
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#21 | | Lost Dog
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Originally Posted by Adam K If you could prove (a) and (b) then I'd hand it to you. | a) Dating and science put dinosaurs in the HUNDREDS of millions of years old. He says 4000.
B) He has no education in the field of evolutionary biology, biology, geology, physics... or science in general.
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03-25-2007, 09:52 PM
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#22 | | Not Kosher.
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Originally Posted by Adam K If you could prove (a) and (b) then I'd hand it to you. | a)
1. Scientific evidence requires that one follows the scientific method. One starts with hypotheses, experiments to gather data, and draws a conclusion from the data.
2. Conclusions that are not the products of this method are not scientific.
3. Hovind starts out with his conclusions, rather than gathering them from evidence and data.
C. Hovind's conclusions are not scientific.
b) He has never attended an accredited university for scientific training. Therefore, he has no scientific credentials. In a public school, they wouldn't even let him teach grade 11 biology. |
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03-25-2007, 10:04 PM
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#23 | | You wanna see dry land?
Joined: Aug 2001 Location: Water World! Posts: 9,737
| All in favor of shipping this to the science forum?
And I just watched a video of his on youtube about the age of the earth. He really doesn't back up anything he says with anything but bad speculation.
All he did was take seemingly random non coherent figures and multiplied them by X billion.
Like the earth's rotation is slowing down... Multiply the speed it is slowing down at by X billion... BACK THEN IT WOULD HAVE SPUN SO FAST NOTHING COuLD HAVE LIVED! HAHAHA |
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03-26-2007, 07:22 AM
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#24 | | Real candidate of change
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| I'm ambiguious. Moving it to science implies that there's a scientific discussion. The only relationship I can find between Hovid and science is Hovid's complete disregard for it. |
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03-26-2007, 09:31 AM
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#25 | | Lost Dog
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Originally Posted by JerryLove I'm ambiguious. Moving it to science implies that there's a scientific discussion. The only relationship I can find between Hovid and science is Hovid's complete disregard for it. | I agree with Jerry on there being no science, so I don;t think it should be put in there either.
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03-26-2007, 11:46 AM
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#26 | | Only a drop of the Sea
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| He uses the bible to back up his claims.
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03-26-2007, 11:49 AM
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#27 | | is not amused
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Originally Posted by Adam K He uses the bible to back up his claims. | Find in the bible where it says, that Dinosaurs were around 4.000 years ago.
I would also like for you to show where in the bible all his "evidence" comes from.
Also, tell me where in the bible it says, it is okay to not pay your taxes.
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03-26-2007, 11:52 AM
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#28 | | Only a drop of the Sea
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Originally Posted by luvinjesus Find in the bible where it says, that Dinosaurs were around 4.000 years ago.
I would also like for you to show where in the bible all his "evidence" comes from.
Also, tell me where in the bible it says, it is okay to not pay your taxes. | The bible no where specifies that Dinosaurs lived millions of years ago either, does that disprove it?
Watch his tapes, he shows you where gets his evidence.
I never agreed with him on not paying taxes.
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03-26-2007, 12:17 PM
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#29 | | Real candidate of change
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Originally Posted by Kent Hovind Dinosaurs were around 4,000 years ago | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Adam K [Hovind] uses the bible to back up his claims. | Quote: |
Originally Posted by luvinjesus Find in the bible where it says, that Dinosaurs were around 4.000 years ago. | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Adam K The bible no where specifies that Dinosaurs lived millions of years ago | That's non-responsive. |
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03-26-2007, 05:04 PM
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#30 | | Lost Dog
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Watch his tapes, he shows you where gets his evidence.
| I did watch his tapes. Anyone who passed grade 10 can tell he is full of baloney and in no way qualified to talk about science.
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