Ok, its wah time...

**jamforchrist123** · 05-19-2006, 09:08 PM

Wow, my mom is really good at talking me out of buying new stuff (like a BASS for example) Well, she is fine if I buy a pedal, but since I have alot of access to lots of different basses she said I didn't really need one. Anyway, I have started to notice how handy a wah would be for me. (Yeah, I have the danelectro dano-wah, but that thing is 100% crud) My budget is about $70, so I have narrowed it down beetween a Crybaby and a used Vox. I will be using it for anything from metal-ish/hard rock to disco-ish and clean stuff. Which one would be better for my musical tastes, the used Vox or the Crybaby?

The Crybaby

The used Vox. Or something like this

**thesteve** · 05-19-2006, 09:21 PM

having owned two crybabys, I think I'd try the Vox...

though the Crybaby is a classic. I dunno. You can get a better deal than the new MF price though. If you're willing to ebay the Vox, then you should do the same with the Dunlop

**jamforchrist123** · 05-19-2006, 09:28 PM

Yeah, I will ebay either, but I just want to know which will sound better with my music styles

BlessedNinja · 05-20-2006, 01:35 AM

Vox is smoother.

Another option you might consider is a Rocktron Black Cat, I own one and the tone is great and the service unbeatable. I accidently plugged in a five amp power supply(supposed to be .7) and toasted my pedal, I took it to the music shop where I bought it to see what they coud do and the next week they give me a call telling me that Rocktron would waranty it even given the nature of the toasting.

I'm now a strong rocktron supporter.

**jamforchrist123** · 05-20-2006, 02:51 PM

The main reason I am leaning towards the Vox is its true bypass (I think) I know you can get true bypass crybabies, but I know that pianoman loves vox wahs, so if they are good enough for him, they are good enough for me

. I just want true bypass because I know that some wahs are know to hurt tone (my dano like completly changes the tone) so I want to take care of that.

PianoMan · 05-20-2006, 08:40 PM

Well, a Vox V847 isn't true bypass. There are plenty of cheap mods out there for them and crybabies to make them so though.

As jamforchrist123 said, I do love Vox wahs. It was my first wah, though I now own a Teese wizard wah. As i've said though, when/if the Teese finally breaks down, I will get another Vox. I still wish I could fix my Vox though...I would love to do a side by side comparison to figure out what I like about both.

As for which is the right one for you, it really depends on the sound you want. The Vox is a more vintage sound, while the Crybaby is a more modern sound.

If you want some sound comparisons, check out dunlop's site for a clean soundclip of the Crybaby, and check this page for a few Vox soundclips. The jazz funky will give you the best comparison to the Crybaby clip.

**jamforchrist123** · 05-20-2006, 08:54 PM

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Well, a Vox V847 isn't true bypass. There are plenty of cheap mods out there for them and crybabies to make them so though.

In that case, how importent do you think true bypass is? I mean, I don't have to have it, since I probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference anyway, but its more of a peace of mind

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As jamforchrist123 said, I do love Vox wahs. It was my first wah, though I now own a Teese wizard wah. As i've said though, when/if the Teese finally breaks down, I will get another Vox. I still wish I could fix my Vox though...I would love to do a side by side comparison to figure out what I like about both.

I want to try one of these teese wahs.

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As for which is the right one for you, it really depends on the sound you want. The Vox is a more vintage sound, while the Crybaby is a more modern sound.

But do you think that either of them would more suite my musical needs? I know one is vintage and one is more modern, but I can't really picture that in my head right now.

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If you want some sound comparisons, check out dunlop's site for a clean soundclip of the Crybaby, and check this page for a few Vox soundclips. The jazz funky will give you the best comparison to the Crybaby clip.

thanks.

PianoMan · 05-20-2006, 09:13 PM

True bypass essentially means that when a device is off, then the signal goes straight through the pedal without any tone coloring - just like it isn't there. It is something that has been majorly hyped up in recent years. Yeah, it is a good thing, but it isn't essential for great tone. I have a few pedals that color my tone, and I actually like the sound more with the coloration then without. Personally, i'll take it if I can get it, but i'm not going to be sad if the pedal I want doesn't have it.

Well, I don't know exactly what types of music you do. I'm assuming you are playing some at church, and while both would do fine, I tend to prefer the Vox in that setting.

As for the modern/vintage sounds. I tend to think of vintage as a smoother sound with a bit less treble and more midrange, and modern as more aggressive with more treble and a bit less midrange.

I think the best thing you could probably do right now is grab your guitar, head over to Guitar Center, and do a side by side comparison of the two and figure out which one you like more.

**jamforchrist123** · 05-20-2006, 09:42 PM

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True bypass essentially means that when a device is off, then the signal goes straight through the pedal without any tone coloring - just like it isn't there. It is something that has been majorly hyped up in recent years. Yeah, it is a good thing, but it isn't essential for great tone. I have a few pedals that color my tone, and I actually like the sound more with the coloration then without. Personally, i'll take it if I can get it, but i'm not going to be sad if the pedal I want doesn't have it.

yeah, I guess I won't worry about that too much.

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Well, I don't know exactly what types of music you do. I'm assuming you are playing some at church, and while both would do fine, I tend to prefer the Vox in that setting.

I will quote myself

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I will be using it for anything from metal-ish/hard rock to disco-ish and clean stuff

But now that I think of it, I might use it at church, but I will bring it on gradualy so I dnot' freak out the worship leader

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As for the modern/vintage sounds. I tend to think of vintage as a smoother sound with a bit less treble and more midrange, and modern as more aggressive with more treble and a bit less midrange.

Thanks. I can see it better now. I guess that all makes sence.

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I think the best thing you could probably do right now is grab your guitar, head over to Guitar Center, and do a side by side comparison of the two and figure out which one you like more.

Very good idea.

With all that said, I am greatly leaning towards the Vox for two reasons. One: I can picture it being mor suited to my tastes since I am finally getting over that "the more DS the better" stage, so I am playing ALOT of clean and mild OD now. I also like my midrange, so the vox would be good for that. Two: Everybody around here seems to haave a crybaby. I hate beign like everybody else.

Edit: I will not buy anything without going to GC first and playing both

omensixaxe · 05-22-2006, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by PianoMan

As i've said though, when/if the Teese finally breaks down, I will get another Vox.

Is this even remotely possible?

I'd love to hear clips, if possible, as I'm interested in the RMC2-3.(end thread hijack.)

sabertooth181 · 05-22-2006, 04:03 PM

Since this is a wah thread, I have a quick question. Does anyone know what wah Clapton used, particularly in the song "White Room"? I am thinking Vox, but that is just a guess.

**guitarjockey111** · 05-22-2006, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jamforchrist123

The main reason I am leaning towards the Vox is its true bypass (I think) I know you can get true bypass crybabies, but I know that pianoman loves vox wahs, so if they are good enough for him, they are good enough for me

. I just want true bypass because I know that some wahs are know to hurt tone (my dano like completly changes the tone) so I want to take care of that.

The V8467 isnt true bypass but if you get teh V848 clyde mccoy wah it is and it has the updated pot on it so its a V847 basically modded.

And Me personally I'm buying a vox V847 and modding it. From what you described I would tell you to do the same.

PianoMan · 05-22-2006, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by omensixaxe

Is this even remotely possible?

I'd love to hear clips, if possible, as I'm interested in the RMC2-3.(end thread hijack.)

I would love to post some clips. However, there is the slight setback that I have absolutely no way to record myself. If anyone wants to donate equipment to a poor college student though...

And yes, the Vox V848 is essentially a V847 modded to be true bypass. However, it is much more cost effective to simply do the mod yourself.