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Unread 05-08-2006, 12:44 PM   #1
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What is it with a lot of noise?

Is it absolutely a requirement for bands to have a LOT of stage noise during practices and gigs? Why have I rarely heard of a band that doesn't want to go deaf by 35?


So yeah, can anyone explain what it is with high volume that is so appealing?

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Unread 05-08-2006, 12:45 PM   #2
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High volume sounds "better" because more air is moving.

Most professional bands use earplugs.
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Unread 05-08-2006, 07:39 PM   #3
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Could be that...

Or the drummer could be loud, making the guitarists turn up, making the bassit turn up, which of course makes the lead guitarist turn up even further, thus making the drummer play harder, getting the guitarists to turn up further, making the bassist turn up... and so on.

Or maybe the band is already deaf.

Or maybe they really do just have an obsession with loud.
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Unread 05-08-2006, 07:46 PM   #4
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Or the drummer could be loud, making the guitarists turn up, making the bassit turn up, which of course makes the lead guitarist turn up even further, thus making the drummer play harder, getting the guitarists to turn up further, making the bassist turn up... and so on.
That's the mosy likely option.

I hate it when the band is playing too loud. I can't hear wha tI'm doing, I can't hear what they're doing, and everything just sounds messy. If more drummers would learn to control the volume of their instrument, we wouldn't have this problem, however....
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Unread 05-08-2006, 07:48 PM   #5
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Well and most bands like U2 and the sutch have the in ear monitors now {watched it on my live in chicago tour} So they ave the good ones that cancel the noise from around them so if its loud up there there not hearing it.Anoher thing alot of bands now adays taht are real loud is amutures from what I've seen and they dont have the time or the funds to get or figure that stuff out.
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That's the mosy likely option.

I hate it when the band is playing too loud. I can't hear wha tI'm doing, I can't hear what they're doing, and everything just sounds messy. If more drummers would learn to control the volume of their instrument, we wouldn't have this problem, however....

Thats why my church makes the drummer use electric drums. They sound ok when eq'ed and stuff but its a matter of stage volume control.
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Or maybe they really do just have an obsession with loud.
Mark Townshend anybody?
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Mark Townshend anybody?
You mean Pete right?

and there's nothing wrong with an obsession with loud...that's how you get power-tube saturation and speaker compression at the same time
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our chuech uses electric drums.
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Unread 05-09-2006, 06:53 AM   #10
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Thats why my church makes the drummer use electric drums. They sound ok when eq'ed and stuff but its a matter of stage volume control.
That's too bad. My church is only about 60-75 people consistently, and we are able to use acoustic drums without being too loud, just by playing a little softer and using Hot Rod sticks. Like I said, though, a lot of drummers can't control their volume too well.
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Unread 05-09-2006, 07:50 AM   #11
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Like I said, though, a lot of drummers can't control their volume too well.
I think that's because its harder to play a steady beat when playing softer. A plexiglass drum enclosure could help.
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I think that's because its harder to play a steady beat when playing softer.
I say it's because a lot of drummers suck.
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I say it's because a lot of drummers suck.
That's true, although there are some good ones out there. We had a great drummer at my last church (he could hold a steady beat at any volume). Had a great bass player too. The Bass player the drummer could really lock in together. I was probably the one who sucked but they always made me sound good.
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We use an acoustic kit, but screen behind plexiglass, that works great. Most drummers have a style, just like most of us do. Some are more agressive with their playing, just as we are more agressive with strumming. And, most drummers do a crappy job of caring for their hearing, so they are half-deaf anyway.
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