03-20-2006, 02:04 AM
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#1 | | Registered User
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| need help deciding peavey classic 50 combo or valveking combo 112
which one works better with pedals? (delay, distortion, etc)
i play stuff like the lead dcb and chris tomlin players.
which one would give me that FULL lead sound?
which is better for clean?
which is better for distortion?
i plan on buying some pedals to play with also.
any other amp recommendations are also welcomed |
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03-20-2006, 08:03 AM
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#2 | | Be happy
Joined: Apr 2001 Location: Louisiana Posts: 19,912
| As always, my advice is first pick an amp, then worry about effects. I'm not a big fan of distortion pedals. Even crappy amps generally have better distortion than good pedals. Try to find a music store where you can go and try out these amps. Pick the one that sounds best to you. Don't worry about effects at this stage. Once you get an amp, figure out which effects you want and why. If you don't understand EXACTLY what a pedal does, don't buy it. Pretty much all effects will sound good with pretty much any amp.
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03-20-2006, 10:02 AM
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#3 | | Yes
Joined: Feb 2004 Location: B'ham, WA Posts: 2,549
| In general, good pedals will sound good with either amp. They're both nice amps, and should react quite similar to each other when you put pedals through. Try both and find out which one you like best.
-Nick |
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03-20-2006, 10:05 AM
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#4 | | Algebraic!
Joined: Apr 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 24,454
| both of those amps are very different in terms of their basic sounds. IMO the C50 is a great amp, and perfect for most worship settings. In terms of how it reacts with pedals, I dont' really know because the amp OD is pretty good so I've never really listened to different ODs through it. |
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03-20-2006, 10:11 AM
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#5 | | distance is not doable
Joined: Oct 2001 Location: Jacksonville, Fl Posts: 3,002
| From personal experience with both, I'd take the classic 50. Btw, in the classic 50, are you looking at the 2x12 or 4x10? Old models, or new (post 2004)?
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03-20-2006, 12:33 PM
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#6 | | Registered User
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| not sure which models, but im looking into used amps. im todl that they dont make these amps anymore so i wanst sure if i could go into a music store and try one |
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03-20-2006, 01:30 PM
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#7 | | Be happy
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Originally Posted by coupon not sure which models, but im looking into used amps. im todl that they dont make these amps anymore so i wanst sure if i could go into a music store and try one | Ahh ok.
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03-20-2006, 02:40 PM
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#8 | | ......
Joined: Oct 2005 Location: Hammond, Louisiana Posts: 1,737
| If you want a good lead sound without a DS pedal you might like the Valveking. Don't let a DS pedal be your motive to have a good sound. Try one or the other without a pedal and see which one you like best. I have the valveking and I feel no need for a pedal.
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03-20-2006, 04:50 PM
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#9 | | Algebraic!
Joined: Apr 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 24,454
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Originally Posted by thomaspg70 If you want a good lead sound without a DS pedal you might like the Valveking. Don't let a DS pedal be your motive to have a good sound. Try one or the other without a pedal and see which one you like best. I have the valveking and I feel no need for a pedal. | hmm...I think Your Favorite Band disagrees. It's all C50, no pedals. |
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03-20-2006, 05:27 PM
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#10 | | Registered User
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| as for the pedals, i dont really need distortion, what im really interested in is delay. as for now i still cant decide between the 2 amps. any one have sound clips of the amps? yourfavoriteband's guitar sounds nice. |
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03-20-2006, 05:35 PM
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#11 | | Algebraic!
Joined: Apr 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 24,454
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Originally Posted by coupon as for the pedals, i dont really need distortion, what im really interested in is delay. as for now i still cant decide between the 2 amps. any one have sound clips of the amps? yourfavoriteband's guitar sounds nice. | the songs "She Says" and "God made you right" are Fender Strat -->C50, the song "Stop Signs" is a Fender DuoSonic-->C50 and "Never" is a Explorer copy-->C50. |
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03-21-2006, 05:50 PM
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#12 | | Arnold Palmers FTW
Joined: Feb 2005 Location: Anderson, IN Posts: 3,873
| I can't decide beetween which one I should get. I play alot of worship, but I would really like high gain amp tone for my other stuff. I would like to not have to use pedals for the distortion, which I would need to do for the classic 30 (I assume). I am hoping to be able to play both of them at WWBW soon, but could somebody that has either of the amps record the clean and a few different dist. settings for me? that would be very helpfull.
woops, I am so observant eh?
I still would like awnsers to this thread since the other one didn't really help me much.
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03-21-2006, 06:14 PM
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#13 | | Algebraic!
Joined: Apr 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 24,454
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Originally Posted by jamforchrist123 I still would like awnsers to this thread since the other one didn't really help me much. | it answers the worship side of it...the C30 is going to be plenty of amp for a worship setting. as far as "high gain" goes, it's probably not going to do modern metal. |
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03-21-2006, 06:25 PM
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#14 | | Arnold Palmers FTW
Joined: Feb 2005 Location: Anderson, IN Posts: 3,873
| But I guess I should say my main style (that I play most) is heavy-ish rock. Kinda like Kuttless. It will be used for worship, but I guess waht I really want is High gain. Sorry, I should have said that
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Amp-Fender Blues Junior
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DW Collectors (10, 12, 14, 20 bass, 14x5,5 snare)
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03-21-2006, 06:43 PM
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#15 | | Algebraic!
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| is there's a certain Kutless album/song I should listen to in order to get a feeling of what you're looking for? I'm not really that familiar with Kutless or their sound |
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