[magical spatula]

Anybody?

I'm vegetarian (for the most part, I still eat fish occasionally) and am sort of looking into the vegan thing, but I think it'd be a lot of careful diet planning, cooking for myself, etc.

My main question is, is anybody here vegan, and if so ...do you think that where you live has an impact on your diet? In any kind of diet, not just vegetarian/veganism.

I'm intrigued.

My friend in Iowa tells me about this co-op that she has...and I really want one. Hahah.

[Elationist]

I eat 80% of my diet = raw fruits and veggies. I love to study them and eat the color wheel.

I love Spirulina! I love the cancer fighters and the power that real healthy foods and dark breads and nuts can give.

God is absoutely the greatest! You know it! His mind is unsearchable and His reason for such a beautiful plethora is beyond any diet!!!

If I live to my total human capacity in years, 120 years (of course no more physically than according to God's promise ), then I hope to be healthy and vigorous in top shape like Moses was when my spirit goes home! (mint tea)

Genesis 6:3 (NKJV) And the LORD said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.”

Romans 9:28 (KJV) For he will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth.

P.S. My Father-In_Law is Hindu [Hare Krishna] so I eat a lot of his religous foods:

[GoMilton]

Kind of an old post but was still on the first page...

My Fiancee is well, I guess a Vegan but not by choice (health reasons) and she gets along just fine where ever we go to eat. Most fast food places have a good selection of salads now. If not a salad, she will get some fries. Anywhere else is even easier because they will have more of a selection. Restaraunts have soups and salads that she really likes. A plus for me is that she is always cheap . Ever notice the difference in price between a salad and a steak?

I dont think the area you live in matters at all if its something you believe in and want to do. It doesnt matter where my Fiancee is, she has to stay away from anything with protein and she always finds plenty of food to eat so if its something you want to do, you will find a way.

[magical spatula]

Originally Posted by GoMilton

Kind of an old post but was still on the first page...

My Fiancee is well, I guess a Vegan but not by choice (health reasons) and she gets along just fine where ever we go to eat. Most fast food places have a good selection of salads now. If not a salad, she will get some fries. Anywhere else is even easier because they will have more of a selection. Restaraunts have soups and salads that she really likes. A plus for me is that she is always cheap . Ever notice the difference in price between a salad and a steak?

I dont think the area you live in matters at all if its something you believe in and want to do. It doesnt matter where my Fiancee is, she has to stay away from anything with protein and she always finds plenty of food to eat so if its something you want to do, you will find a way.

From an non-animal-contents view, fries at any fast food place aren't completely vegan, because the oil contains animal tallow or fat to give them extra flavor. (Fries are generally bad for you anyway, unless they're not fried...ever tried frozen fries baked? Fabulous.)

Salads and soups are a good choice, but for people who are "truly" vegan, there is so much you can't eat, because even salad dressings [and soups] contain milk, yogurt, cream, cheese, beef/chicken broth, etc. It's kind of hard to find a "true" vegan soup (I'm addicted to broccoli and cheese, but that's not vegan) that doesn't contain any animal ingredients. A lot of vegans can't/don't eat many breads, either, because they eggs and such.


Wowowowow.

Okay, tangent is done. So she can't eat anything with protein in it? What about beans and nuts? Does she have to take a special supplement? I don't want to seem nosy, but that sounds awfully...restricting.

[TahoeJeff]

kind of off topic, but for some reason whenever I read veganism, I always see it as paganism at first....weird. That is all...

[GoMilton]

Yea, that is true about the fries with the coating. She can only eat a certain amount of potatoes as it is. The coating doesnt really effect her too much since she is already limited on how much she can eat of the potatoes.

She uses a lot of Vinaigrettes on salad. Catalina is another one she uses. She usually gets Minestrone if she has soup although some have noodles. She has to limit herself on breads, if any at all because it has protein whether it be from the Wheat or from the dairy products in it.

She cant have nuts or beans at all. Thats like eating a steak. Even some lettuce has protein in it, to us, its non existant, to her, its there. Yes she takes a supplement. I see people complain about taking a handful of pills everyday, bleh, try taking 120 capsule size pills everyday then you can complain.

[Elationist]

TahoeJeff said:

kind of off topic, but for some reason whenever I read veganism, I always see it as paganism at first....weird. That is all...

Well, what do you think when you take a second look?

[redbaron]

I think it's people who are eating an inherently unhealthy diet, and frankly I think that biblical reasons against veganism/vegetarianism are rather strong.

Given that there is no moral high ground, nor is there a real health benefit over eating a similarly healthy diet with meats (just because you eat meat doesn't mean it's mcdonalds burgers, or fried foods), so frankly to me it is posturing.

90% of the veggie/vegan people that I know love to get on their moral high horse, or proclaim the wonders of their diet. The latter naturally not being 100% in shape, or healthy looking (sallow).

[Elationist]

RedBaron said:

I think it's people who are eating an inherently unhealthy diet, and frankly I think that biblical reasons against veganism/vegetarianism are rather strong.

Are you saying that we are commanded to eat a certain way or not commanded to eat a certain way (which is eventually the same thing).

And...

Given that there is no moral high ground, nor is there a real health benefit over eating a similarly healthy diet with meats (just because you eat meat doesn't mean it's mcdonalds burgers, or fried foods), so frankly to me it is posturing.

You raise a good point here about the meats not necessarily being inoculated or hormonal...but I am not sure what you are saying concerning moral high grounds and no health benefits. Do you have some documentation or something more on this?

90% of the veggie/vegan people that I know love to get on their moral high horse, or proclaim the wonders of their diet. The latter naturally not being 100% in shape, or healthy looking (sallow).

Sounds like some religious folks... well to some, vegetarianism or veganism is their religion and to others it is part of their religion...perhaps for some they don't consider it religion but include it anyhow. About how many people are you calling 90%? Thanks just wondering.

[magical spatula]

Of the other two vegetarian people I know, I've never met one who has a "high horse". Yeah, I guess a few PETA members go around throwing red paint on people who wear fur and tell them "meat is murder"...

But I digress. No, just because you eat meat doesn't mean you're unhealthy, however, I think a vegetarian diet is more healthy. Meat isn't necessarily bad for you, although excessively high amounts of red meat are supposedly linked to raised cholesterol levels, blood pressure, and heart disease.

I just think meat in general is gross, and the way that they process cows to steak (or chicken to nuggets, etc.) needs to be radically revamped...

[Elationist]

My father-in-law is Hindu (well Hare' Krishna) and besides deeply rooted religious reasons and indoctrination of cultish thinkings, he basically says, "People who eat meats are really accustomed to the desire for blood."

I agree with him on many aspects [well to a degree] but there is no biblical legalistically mandated, dietary prescription in Scripture for us to follow except for basicaly this one: Philippians 4:5 (KJV) Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand. Or as we say today, "Everything in moderation."

Me personally, I believe we worship God by being good stewards of everything we eat, buy and give thanks for. We don't worship food or diets.

[bobthecockroach]

Ok, but there are also loony vegans that make their children eat nothing but wheat germ or whatever and kill them because of malnutrition. Actually, I tend to think that vegans are loony in general, but you may be the exception.

[Elationist]

Bobthecockroach said:

Ok, but there are also loony vegans that make their children eat nothing but wheat germ or whatever and kill them because of malnutrition. Actually, I tend to think that vegans are loony in general, but you may be the exception.

Really!? Do you have any documentation to support this? I am not saying what you are saying is not true, I am saying what you are saying is amazing and I would love to read some actual documentation.

P.S. I am sure in today's world we can find documentation on almost anything, but if you do, try to give something we could agree is good and trustworthy documentation.

[bobthecockroach]

It was in the news awhile back. I'll try to find it with Google.

[bobthecockroach]

Well, here's the best I can find with how my internet is running tonight:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4282257.stm

This may be the story I was thinking of, but, again, I can't even load the page, so I'm not sure:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,51494,00.html

This might also offer insights:
http://www.courttv.com/trials/andres...round_ctv.html

*EDIT* I managed to get something to load. That last link will take you to the story to which I was referring.