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Old 01-24-2006, 09:04 PM   #1
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Baptism according to the 39 Articles

I recently started attending an REC church in my area, so I've been trying to wrap my head around their 39 Articles. I'm having the most trouble understanding quite what the 39 Articles say about baptism. Do they advocate baptismal regeneration, presumptive regeneration, or some other oddity?

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I recently started attending an REC church in my area, so I've been trying to wrap my head around their 39 Articles. I'm having the most trouble understanding quite what the 39 Articles say about baptism. Do they advocate baptismal regeneration, presumptive regeneration, or some other oddity?
I have found that most Anglican doctrines are non-committal. So, during baptism something may happen, we're not sure and we're not going to rule it. If something does happen we are not sure exactly what it is that happens. Jesus told us to baptize so we baptize.
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Do they advocate baptismal regeneration, presumptive regeneration, or some other oddity?
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I figured it'd be something like that, since that seems to be the Article's stance on everything else.
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I figured it'd be something like that, since that seems to be the Article's stance on everything else.
At the end of the day, that's their brillance. This a church that George Whitefield and John Wesley were ordained in and required subscription to the Articles. I think the 39 Articles are, in essence, about as good a statement of faith (for their time) as you can get.
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I recently started attending an REC church in my area, so I've been trying to wrap my head around their 39 Articles. I'm having the most trouble understanding quite what the 39 Articles say about baptism. Do they advocate baptismal regeneration, presumptive regeneration, or some other oddity?
OH MAN! I am a member of the REC...

My Church moved.... I MISS THE REC!!!

anyway......
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While we're talking about baptism and the Episcopal church, here's the question I've always had...

When the priest/pastor says "so and so, you are sealed and marked as Christ's own forever", particularly with regard to infants... is this declaring that they are saved forever? I guess I'm wondering how theologically appropriate this approach to baptism is, because it seems to me that some of those infants go on to live lives where they do not commit themselves to Christ. Are they marked as "Christ's own" forever because of baptism? Or is that an inaccurate statement?

Just curious what you all might have to say...
I think the idea is that baptism saves, except when it doesn't. The priest is making a declaration based on what he/she knows at the time.
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