[Guitarchick19]

what is it exactly? all i know about it is that it's some kind of cult or something that wants to take over the world....or at least that's what someone told me.....but, what is it?

[thomaspg70]

yeah the antichrist cult lol.

[Guitarchick19]

Originally Posted by thomaspg70

yeah the antichrist cult lol.

oh!...well.....that's awkward! lol I just saw it in the book my mom's reading Angels and Demons...and yeah, she didn't say anything about it when i asked....

[mattslope]

Guitarchick20xd6,

Check out www.google.com

You may amaze yourself with the amount of knowledge available through search engines.

Good luck, and welcome to the internet,

Matthew

[Role Modlin]

Illuminati

[joeldetwiler]

Originally Posted by Guitarchick19

oh!...well.....that's awkward! lol I just saw it in the book my mom's reading Angels and Demons...and yeah, she didn't say anything about it when i asked....

That's a good book but I'm pretty sure that particular Illuminati is fictitious. There are however "Illuminati" societies out there, just groups of people gone mad who think they are enlightened beyond normal intelligence I suppose, but they must act in secret so they aren't cast out as some strange group conspirators.

[Kiss the Son]

Originally Posted by Guitarchick19

oh!...well.....that's awkward! lol I just saw it in the book my mom's reading Angels and Demons...and yeah, she didn't say anything about it when i asked....

Kind of an interesting book, I might add. Obviously not accurate in any way, shape, or form, and a little predictable, but I liked it all the same.

[Fred_space]

Originally Posted by Kiss the Son

Kind of an interesting book, I might add. Obviously not accurate in any way, shape, or form, and a little predictable, but I liked it all the same.

Not all of it was inaccurate.

[BurntHombre]

Originally Posted by Guitarchick19

what is it exactly?

This is a dangerous question you ask.

[dve326]

Originally Posted by Lee Modlin

Illuminati

Ah, wicipedia, good site for info. I've acutally also never took the time to learn exactly whawt Illuminati is.

[Abbadon]

According to Jack Chick, the illuminati are freemasons that are actually a bunch of satanic homosexual catholic devil worshipping atheists who are out to make us worship satan by teaching about evolution in schools, encouraging us to listen to satanic bands like Stryper, and by encouraging our children to read books like Harry Potter, which according to his sources, actually contains diagrams and rituals for summoning demons, particularly in chapter two of book three "Harry Potter sells his soul".

And it's all true because he also says that Jesus is Lord at the end of that stuff!

As should be obvious, Jack Chick is an idiot.

The Illuminati were a group that were inspired by the freemason's secretive traditions, and thought that they were more enlightened than everyone else, in Bavaria about 200 years ago. They've long since collapsed, and there aren't any actual illuminati groups, though there are the occasional nut-jobs that took stuff that people like Jack Chick said seriously, but ignored the "Jesus is Lord" bit at the back. However, since the Catholic church has ruled that it's members cannot become freemasons (though freemasons welcome catholics), catholics aren't satanists (and only recently have there actually been freemasons that were satanists, and there've been atheist freemasons, say, Ben Franklin, for a long time), atheists don't worship the devil, and there's nothing wrong with the theory of evolution (God still could be behind it), Stryper, or Harry Potter, so these supposed "illuminati" have to make up stuff.

BTW, freemasonry is more or less a Christian organization. It started when stonemason guilds applied Christian teaching to symbols from thier trade, and evolved from there. Originally, you had to be a Christian to join, and some lodges still require this. Eventually, many lodges came to include Jews and Muslims, and eventually many lodges just said "Yeah, all theists can join". Nowadays, there are lodges occupied by Christians, lodges occupied by Abrahamic religionists, lodges occupied by theists, and lodges occupied by anyone that really wishes to join. Freemasons aren't some illuminati group.

Originally Posted by Fred_space

Not all of it was inaccurate.

It's been my general impression that Dan Brown's work is almost wholly inaccurate, save for some things like "yes, there is a Catholic church", and "yes, there were Gnostic Christians", but most of the stuff (outside of the History channel), usually denounce it for the wrong reasons. For example, Dan Brown confuses the Qabbalistic concept of Shekinah (basically the Holy Spirit, or "God dwelling with us") with Asherah, and says that Jews had God and Goddess worship. Usually, this is denounced for "The Jews were good Christians like us! Not Wiccans!", even though the Jews weren't Christians, and Wicca hadn't been made up yet. Another example, Dan Brown says that the all the Gnostics were unified under the worship of Mary Magdeline, even though the Gnostics not unified at all, but were fringe groups from the Greco-Roman and Egyptian pagan religions and philosophies, Jewish religion and philosophies, and when Christianity (a fringe group itself) came about, Christian religion and philosophies. Also, while there is plenty of evidence to suggest that the Gnostics thought Mary Magdeline was good buddies with Jesus, possibly a chick disciple and reciever of divine wisdom from Christ, there's nothing to suggest that they worshipped her, nor is there nothing before the 20th century (in "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" to suggest that she had Jesus's kid). And Dan Brown also says that the pentagram is a symbol of the "divine feminine" that is supposedly absent from Christianity, even though Christ is called the power (dynamis, masculine), and wisdom (sophia, FEMININE) of God, God is infinite (which would imply not only one gender, and probably not even a finite number of genders), and pretty much the only thing to suggest that the pentagram is a symbol of the "divine feminine" is that it's been used to represent Venus and Asherah, though there's just as much, if not more evidence to suggest that the pentagram represented either the five wounds of Christ, or the microcosm (man being viewed as a smaller representation of creation, or the image of God).

I've got way to much spare time.

Originally Posted by BurntHombre

This is a dangerous question you ask.

Ah, but not as dangerous as asking about the invisible pink unicorn, which is nowadays as real as the illuminati.

Originally Posted by mattslope

Guitarchick20xd6,

Check out www.google.com

You may amaze yourself with the amount of knowledge available through search engines.

Good luck, and welcome to the internet,

Matthew

Google is good, but it's a terrible idea to use it to search anything that could possibly relate to religion or politics in any way, shape, or form.

www.Wikipedia.org is a much better idea instead, since anyone can correct that, but you can't correct Jack Chick's website (unfortunately, and at least, not legally). Thanks to LeeModlin for providing a link.

Originally Posted by thomaspg70

yeah the antichrist cult lol.

Ah, but you could actually find a cult dedicated to antiChristianity. Illuminati, however, are like elves.

[Krarwoodwatcher]

This is some weird stuff. Illuminati? I haven't heard that in a while...
I have a friend who used to be obssesed with stuff like that. His parents are Christian, and for whatever reason he's kind of turned away from all that and chased after stuff like that.

As for Illuminati actually is, wikipedia I'll have to agree is better than Google, but you're going to have to read the book and other books/sites that follow up on Angels and Demons or discuss the relative real life cults from a proper persepctive in order to truly understand what it is. Its kind of creepy to be honest.

[Fred_space]

Actually I do agree that alot of Dan Browns books are inaccurate, he didnt even describe CERN right or as you pointed out there much reglious content wasnt accurate.

I was just making the point that "was not accurate in any way, shape, or form" is a little harsh, it was merely mostly inaccurate.

Proberbly just me being a bit pedantic.

[BurntHombre]

Originally Posted by Abbadon

Ah, but not as dangerous as asking about the invisible pink unicorn, which is nowadays as real as the illuminati.

Invisible Pink Unicorn is so 1999. All the cool kids reference the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

[Abbadon]

Originally Posted by BurntHombre

Invisible Pink Unicorn is so 1999. All the cool kids reference the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Ah, but I play Dungeons and Dragons and watch Star Trek (OS and Next Generation). Even "pwned" has yet to enter my lexicon, and I only got Linkin Park's and Gorillaz self titleds a couple of weeks ago.

I'm legally not allowed to make references to the FSM for 2d4 years.