[Rhythm_guy]

Originally Posted by Dave H

I'm not going to spend a bunch of money on one either

Don't know what you consider "a bunch" but I just picked up a V-amp2 for $50. I know it's not a POD, but if you need something like that on a budget might want to consider it. I'm not recommending it or anything, just pointing out there are less expensive alternatives to POD (J-station, Pandora, etc). I wanted to try it for home recording, but last week our WL announced he's about to get IEMs for us, too. He said "you will have to run through your POD or something," which is fine if you have one, but if you don't...

[Mr_Mike]

Sorry about the tangent.

The VAmp2 has some nice clean sounds - use your pedals in front of them.

I agree about having the church pick one up. It will come in handy for all visiting muscians, not just yourself.

[Dave H]

I was talking to the sound director about getting a couple of POD XTlives. Don't know if it will happen though.

I ended up playing through a small SS practice amp at a low volume that was then mic'd. Didn't sound awfully great but it got the job done. I can see how the IEMs can be a benefit with something like a church service, but as a musician - specifically a guitar player - it sure takes something away. I really missed the interaction of my guitar with my amp. Oh well.

[niangelo]

Originally Posted by Dave H

I was talking to the sound director about getting a couple of POD XTlives. Don't know if it will happen though.

I ended up playing through a small SS practice amp at a low volume that was then mic'd. Didn't sound awfully great but it got the job done. I can see how the IEMs can be a benefit with something like a church service, but as a musician - specifically a guitar player - it sure takes something away. I really missed the interaction of my guitar with my amp. Oh well.

Sorry about the dumb reply before. Ahem.

Take heart; I've heard very cool things done with a midi pedal, a pod and a keyboard monitor acting as a stage amp/monitor for the guitar player.

[biggiepaul]

i dont see how in-ears have anything to do with your guitar setup or sound. many professionals are now using in-ears almost exclusively...
who told you not to bring your amp and why? they obviously dont know very much about electric guitar. if you are going to play it you should do it correctly. all you need to do is mic your amp and have the sound guy run it into your in-ear monitors. the other thing you can do is just play with one earpiece in and use your other to hear your amp. if they do not want the stage volume of an amp - that is totally different issue than the in-ear monitors. in that case you need to try to move your amp off-stage and run a long cable to it or get a POD xtlive and spend some time getting it to sound right.

[russellcframe]

Actually a move to IEM's and going without guitar amps can be very related.

If you ask any experienced live sound engineer, dealing with stage sound is a very common (and often is a significant) problem.

You want the crowd to hear your PA, not your wedges and stage amps.

When you've got a guitarist who insists on pointing their amp at their back and/or is constantly cranking their volume so they can get "their" sound, it's a problem. You'll end up cranking monitor volumes, the guitarist cranks, amp, and pretty soon all you have is a bunch of crap sound and feedback.

Moving to IEM's can be a big blessing in fighting this feedback and stage volume problem and can stop the fight between monitor and guitar amps.

This is only part of the problem. As we know a guitarist uses their amp to form their tone. However, a good tube amp wont reach proper saturation until operating at higher levels...so we still have a stage volume problem unless the guitarist is running a low power amp (very unusual).

In the end this is very similar to the acoustic versus vdrums issue. With a good guitarist, running quality gear at low volumes there isn't a real good reason you can't run with a mic'd amp. But this combination is rare and it's generally going to be much easier to get a better overall sound running a guitarist through an amp modeller and IEM's.

[trpullen]

I have gotten very fond of my XTLive for services. I still prefer playing though my Rivera Chubster but I can get some really nice, inspiring tones from my XTLive.

I am more concerned about the implementation of the system than I am anything else. You found out at rehearsal that they had just gotten the IEMs and they were going into use without allowing the band time to rehears with them. That is INSANE! If I were to switch my band over to IEMs, it would be over the course of a month or more to allow them time to get used to them and to really dial them in for optimal performance.

[Dave H]

TR - I am just a small part of a larger band. I only play once a month or so...

[trpullen]

Originally Posted by Dave H

TR - I am just a small part of a larger band. I only play once a month or so...

Understandable...they needed to bring you in earlier or not use them on your first week in. Still poor planning in my book.

[snoboy19]

Sorry to bring back an old thread but i have a question about IEM I am the bassist for our group and worried about not feeling the bass as I play. We just purchased our IEMs and are going to use them for the first time this week. Are there better ear buds I could use for better bass response and feel? I love feeling the bass as well as hearing it.

[Brent]

What earbuds are you using now? The Shure E2's (LINK) are what we use at church. They have a good bass response, but nothing's going to replace your bass rig for feel. I plug in direct with my SansAmp Bass Drive DI to the house, but I'd much rather have my amp. Definitely a good sound in the house this way, but it's hard to hear at times in the mix with everything else. You could try the E3's or E5's for more money, but the E2's are already 100 bucks a pair...

[LWatford]

If you want to feel bass, look into these. Bolt one under the drummers throne, and a few to the stage (or if that's not doable, to some plywood that you stand on).