[mattslope]

Originally Posted by rsibassist

i wasn't talking about the movie..was replying to the person who said i support gays.......a lie all the time..but that doesn't mean i support lying. so im not saying every movie that has that stuff in it is evil..i was simply replying to the supporter of homosexuals.

-Leviticus 18:22
-Romans 1:27

but i based my first statement on Leviticus 18:22

1 Cor 6:8-10 Homosexuals are lumped in with thieves, the greedy and drunkards for inadmission to heaven.

Now, tell me why I should support my brother through his alcohol addiction, praying fervently for him, but not my lesbian sister. Tell me why movies like Leaving Las Vegas, where a man drinks himself to death while dating a prostitute, hasn't been lambasted as fervently as Bird Cage, where a loving homosexual couple accept their heterosexual sons intolerance gracefully.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by mattslope

1 Cor 6:8-10 Homosexuals are lumped in with thieves, the greedy and drunkards for inadmission to heaven.

Now, tell me why I should support my brother through his alcohol addiction, praying fervently for him, but not my lesbian sister. Tell me why movies like Leaving Las Vegas, where a man drinks himself to death while dating a prostitute, hasn't been lambasted as fervently as Bird Cage, where a loving homosexual couple accept their heterosexual sons intolerance gracefully.

*DISCLAIMER* I totally agree that Christianity has absurd double standards in regards to homosexuality. I'm by no means defending such double standards *END DISCLAIMER*

The difference between Leaving Las Vegas and The Birdcage is that one was glorifying a sinful lifestyle and other was not.

[mattslope]

Originally Posted by Sean

*DISCLAIMER* I totally agree that Christianity has absurd double standards in regards to homosexuality. I'm by no means defending such double standards *END DISCLAIMER*

Thanks.

The difference between Leaving Las Vegas and The Birdcage is that one was glorifying a sinful lifestyle and other was not.

I saw both as glamorizing sin. In Leaving Las Vegas, we (the audiance) are lead to believe that the love story developed between Nick Cage and Liz Shoe is beautiful and moving.

[BurntHombre]

Originally Posted by Gecko of Doom

Actually, I saw the parody of this movie on Saturday Night Live before I heard of the real movie.

Heh..."What in tarnation are you doin' down there!"

Great skit.

[bread man]

Originally Posted by meatfinger

Yeah, well those are all ninjas. Ninjas, whether gay or straight, are badass by default. Sheepherders... well... that's a different story.

I really couldn't have put it better.

[SccHarpGirl]

I saw Brokeback mountain tonight with a friend. Here are some thoughts:

*Was the movie deserving of the many oscar nods that it's certain to get? Probably not. Was it, overall, a good movie? I would have to say yes.

I think everyone who watches this movie can form their own conclusions about what could have made things work, why things didn't work out.

Watching this movie, the overwhelming thought that I took away is how damaging affairs are to a relationship. Watching how their relationship utterly destroyed Enis' relationship with his wife and kids. The theme that stuck with me is if you make the committment to someone, you need to honor it. Jack and Enis came off the mountain with the expectation that they'd start seeing other people (assumed to be women). But then they got married. And the marriage committment is a lot more. in marriage vows you profess to "forsake all others". their secret relationship left them wanting both for something that could never be and caused dissatisfaction with their marriages. Or while it perhaps didn't cause dissatisfaction, it made them more unwilling to work through their problems

I really dont' think it would have mattered whether it was a heterosexual or a homosexual affair, the damage it would have done to the marriage would be the same. And it was that damage that was the truly sad part of the movie.

That is my mini review.

[WorshipJesus]

Originally Posted by SCCHarpGirl

That is my mini review.

Here is a full movie review. Warning: Explicit Content

http://www.pluggedinonline.com/movie...s/a0002455.cfm

[Inked in Blood]

Originally Posted by WorshipJesus

Here is a full movie review. Warning: Explicit Content

http://www.pluggedinonline.com/movie...s/a0002455.cfm

Many on here wouldnt use the site if their life depended on it.

[OneHope]

Originally Posted by Inked in Blood

Many on here wouldnt use the site if their life depended on it.

The subjective part is pretty useless a lot of the time but the objective stuff just says it how it is. For example, it presents the number of swear words in a movie; what you do with that is up to you.

[rsibassist]

Now, tell me why I should support my brother through his alcohol addiction, praying fervently for him, but not my lesbian sister. Tell me why movies like Leaving Las Vegas, where a man drinks himself to death while dating a prostitute, hasn't been lambasted as fervently as Bird Cage, where a loving homosexual couple accept their heterosexual sons intolerance gracefully.[/QUOTE]

if the person that i responded to was saying i support gay people as in i pray for them fervently, then i totally agree with that, but the way they said it it sounded like they supported the sin as well. and i disagree with that...so i did not mean to say totally abandon them to their sin, i simply stated it is an abomination unto the Lord. i apologize for the cliche but: love the sinner hate the sin. The statement "i support gays" sounds to me like they are for it and have no problem with it. so, yes i agree you should supuport the sinner themselves but by no means support the sin.

[Frodo]

Some things that bother me about this movie (which I haven't seen, I've only read reviews like from IMDB, rotten tomatoes, etc)

1. Love=Lust. I have a hard time believing that two people can truly love each other when they don't have God's love. Obviously, if the Bible is against a relationship, that relationship cannot have God's love in it. Besides, from what i've read and seen, these guys aren't in love with each other. Love is a commitment. They are in lust, even though they have beautiful wives and families, they give in to their feelings and lie to their wives to be together sexually. One reporter, Sean Smith wrote, "Brokeback feels like a landmark film. No American film before has portrayed love between two men as something this pure and sacred." Okay, I don't think having sex in a field before marriage(not that they could marry), marrying their wives without being honest with them, and then cheating on their marriages to be with each other qualifies as pure and sacred love. The fact that Hollywood calls that strong bond "love" REALLY ticks me off, but I don't expect anything better from them either.

2. It just bugs me that Ledger was in this movie, because even though I know he's straight, it just grosses me out that one of my favorite actors played a gay character. Wouldn't have been so bad to just act gay, but when they're doing gay sex scenes it just makes my stomach turn. i'm not going to see this movie simply because I'd be too disappointed.

3. Another thing that bugs me is that this movie could have been an awesome testament to friendship and a bond that last between brothers if it had only changed the plot slightly. why not make Enis and Jack develop a great, strong friendship that can't be broken and only strenghtens over the years. Then, instead of ending in lust, destroyed relationships, and heartbreak, people could have left the movie feeling happy and desiring to develop a strong FRIENDSHIP with someone of their own sex, because those friendships really are wonderful and can strongly support and enrich a person's life. In my opinion, it still would have won awesome awards, and going back my problem number 1, people would have walked away thinking that love is more than just lust and sexual passion, it's a lifelong commitment to care for and support another person.


Thank you.