09-19-2005, 09:16 PM
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| Views on the Holman Bible Seeing as the Holman translation is most often regarded as the "Southern Baptist translation", I was wondering how other Baptists, Southern or not, view it. Personally, I find it to be a fair translation, but I much prefer my ESV. (But then again, I take ESV over everything, followed by NIV and then NASB. But that's just me.)
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09-20-2005, 09:04 AM
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#2 | | Registered User
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Originally Posted by Boy Genius Seeing as the Holman translation is most often regarded as the "Southern Baptist translation", I was wondering how other Baptists, Southern or not, view it. Personally, I find it to be a fair translation, but I much prefer my ESV. (But then again, I take ESV over everything, followed by NIV and then NASB. But that's just me.) | Funny, how a life long Southern Baptist like me has never read the Holman or had it as a pew Bible in most of the churches I have attended. The churches I have gone to have all preferred the KJV or NIV. |
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09-20-2005, 11:06 AM
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#3 | | Bulldogge Administrator
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Originally Posted by Boy Genius Seeing as the Holman translation is most often regarded as the "Southern Baptist translation", I was wondering how other Baptists, Southern or not, view it. Personally, I find it to be a fair translation, but I much prefer my ESV. (But then again, I take ESV over everything, followed by NIV and then NASB. But that's just me.) |
I like it and its fairly nes, and one of my profs was a translator on it, but still I prefer ESV.
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10-05-2005, 01:17 AM
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#4 | | so much
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Originally Posted by milkmandog Funny, how a life long Southern Baptist like me has never read the Holman or had it as a pew Bible in most of the churches I have attended. | That's because it's quite a recent translation.
I'm not partial to it at all. It's a mix of awkwardness, wordiness, and clumsiness all rolled up in a shroud of "modern-day" language that rarely translates into anything anyone would say in any kind of normal conversation.
Oh well.
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10-07-2005, 07:40 AM
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#5 | | Micah 6:8
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| I don't like it either. LifeWay uses it in their Sunday School material but I just have the kids read from the NIV which is what they all seem to have (although I don't care for the NIV either  ) |
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10-11-2005, 01:44 PM
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#6 | | |Last of the Gang to Die|
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| It reads like the NIV and NASB got into a fistfight.
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10-24-2005, 04:11 PM
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| I used to teach LifeWay materials for years.
As far as I can tell, since the Holman version came out, they use that in lieu of the NIV. I believe they do this for two reasons:
1. Sell Holman versions
2. Stop paying copyright fees to NIV.
Either way, it's in the best interest of LifeWay's bottom-line.
I have only browsed through a Holman Bible, but I did make it a point to read the preface. They use the Nestle-Aland text, so I would sum it up as this:
A good translation of a corrupted Greek text.
Read at your own risk. |
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11-10-2005, 04:49 PM
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#8 | | Registered Loser
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| Hey, you know what?? I like the Holman!! And I liked it long before I worked for lifeway (something I never thought I'd ever be doing). That said, I almost always study with three bibles: HCSB, NIV, and a french bible. I like the different translations - it gives a more rounded view. If I'm just reading though, I usually use the HCSB. It reads easier for me.
You do have a point though... one of the main reasons that Lifeway uses HCSB in everything is because Holman is a division of lifeway and that means no royalties. You know what though? Lifeway IS a not-for-profit company. All the money from your "bottom line" goes straight to support missions and church plants. So, can you really get that mad if they are shaving a few pennies to boost the bottom line??
On the other hand, as a Universal Service Rep for Lifeway, I'd NEVER say that the HCSB was THE southern baptist bible... most of the people I talk to will only use the King James and get offended if you even MENTION that some product comes in NIV and HCSB as well. And the KJV has so many issues... well, I don't even want to get into that...
I like my HCSB!
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11-10-2005, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SoulBass On the other hand, as a Universal Service Rep for Lifeway, I'd NEVER say that the HCSB was THE southern baptist bible... | I did not mean to sound as if I was saying that the Holman was the only Bible that Southern Baptists use, but rather that when speaking to someone not affliated with the translation or the Convention in general, it is simply thought of as the version that the Southern Baptists translated, hence their thinking of it as a quote "Southern Baptist" bible.
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11-11-2005, 08:35 AM
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#10 | | |Last of the Gang to Die|
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| One of my professors uses the HCSB in his lectures; the [biblical] text for the class, however, is still the liberal-ish NRSV.
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