[Link H]

I was wondering if someone on here could list the names and works of cessationist theologians, particularly old works on the subject that Cessationists consider classics on the subject. Also, are there any new books that deal with the Ephesians 2 argument?

[ScooterSCE]

Originally Posted by Link H

I was wondering if someone on here could list the names and works of cessationist theologians, particularly old works on the subject that Cessationists consider classics on the subject. Also, are there any new books that deal with the Ephesians 2 argument?

Counterfeit Miracles by B.B. Warfield is considered a classic on cessation, although I haven't had an opportunity to read it. Have fun with studying this! its an interesting subject.

[Godreignsoveral]

Originally Posted by ScooterSCE

Counterfeit Miracles by B.B. Warfield is considered a classic on cessation, although I haven't had an opportunity to read it. Have fun with studying this! its an interesting subject.

It can be found online here.

[mlqurgw]

"Signs of the Apostles" by Walter Chantry is a very good book on the subject. The best I have read. It was published by The Banner of Truth Trust.

[Travis]

Richard Gaffin's Perspectives on Pentecost is a fantastic defense of cessationism.

[Lightknight]

Originally Posted by Link H

I was wondering if someone on here could list the names and works of cessationist theologians, particularly old works on the subject that Cessationists consider classics on the subject. Also, are there any new books that deal with the Ephesians 2 argument?

There are none that successfully use scripture as their basis. This is the problem. As you have probably noticed with Travis' interactions with noncessationists on this forum. To be a cessationist, you practically have to believe in reason more than scripture in that one area. As it is understood that scripture does point to the manifestation gifts of the spirit being present until the return of Jesus and our total enlightenment by that. The main arguement seems to be, "Well, if prophetic gifts still exist, then that means that the Bible wouldn't have to be closed." This is, in essence, a complete non sequitur that does not deal with scripture in any way (and admittedly so, as Travis, using this arguement, honestly stated that he wasn't using scripture). The arguement thus tries to defeat scripture by what they feel it would imply.

It is because of all of this that I would honestly say that the biggest reason for the cessationist theologians today would certainly not be scripture, but rather from being turned off to it by the many churches that "use/mimick/abuse" the gifts in so many wrong way. Point and case; TBN.

[Ridley's Own]

Lightknight,

The thread specifically asks for books on cessationism by cessationist authors. It's not asking for an opinion on cessationism itself. Any further discussion of cessationism will be deleted as being off-topic. There are a myriad of other threads to talk about it. This just doesn't happen to be one.

[Link H]

I skimmed parts of the Warfield book. It is very wordy, probably due to the time period in which it was written. Does anyone know the date it was written in? Was it during the healing movement of the 1800's but before the Pentecostal movement?

Does Warfield actually try to make a Biblical case for cessationism? One argument I saw he dealt with was the idea that when Christianity had gained a certain amount of power, gifts were not needed. This is an argument but it has little or nothing to do with scripture. He also goes to great lengths to try to refute many miralces and claims of miracles that occurred throughout the history of the church up to his own time, apparently. But does he make any theological, or particularly, Biblical arguments? Maybe someone could summarize the arguments in this work.

I am particularly interested in finding cessationist works that cessationist theologians considered to be unanswered works-- works with arguments that no Charismatic theologian has dealt with in theological writings.

[Athanasius]

Charismatic theologians?

[Ridley's Own]

Originally Posted by Athanasius

Charismatic theologians?

You know, theologians that can speak well. Hold an audience. Get people to do things they wouldn't normally do. Others want to be around them. A rare breed, since most real theologians (as opposed to popularizers) would rather eat my computer desk before being that charismatic.

Travis,

There's no call for that kind of response. It's been dealt with.

[Ridley's Own]

Originally Posted by Lightknight

Does my response make more sense in the context of this thread now that I've explained my reasoning?

No.

[Travis]

Isaac: If Gavin is going to continue to be allowed to make claims about me here, I ought to have the right to respond to them.

[RidleyMod]He's not allowed, and I deleted his comments.[/RidleyMod]

[Ridley's Own]

Thread closed.

Folks, I'm getting tired of an insistence on treating every single post as hand to hand combat. There is simply no reason for any of us to be behaving in this manner. If you can't read a post without demanding a response to it, or elucidating a simple request for books/names of theologians with whom you disagree without giving commentary on it, then don't post at all. You are not children. If you read something you don't like, turn off the computer and realize that CGR isn't real life. This moving into the world of divisiveness for divisiveness sake. It's not healthy, it's not Christian.