Am I the only one who understands that to a believer, death is okay?

incline · 09-14-2005, 06:29 PM

Life is fine, but when you die a believer, it is no sad thing. Atleast, that's how I read the Bible.

guitarmonkey<>< · 09-14-2005, 06:31 PM

It is ok. Not to the children or the family that person left behind.
Jesus was saddened for the loss of John the Baptist.

incline · 09-14-2005, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by guitarmonkey<><

Jesus was saddened for the loss of John the Baptist.

True, but John the Baptist had his head lopped off. That's a sad thing.

guitarmonkey<>< · 09-14-2005, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by incline

True, but John the Baptist had his head lopped off. That's a sad thing.

Death is a curse related to sin, it is not a joyous event. Being renewed in Christ is the joyous event. We still weep for the loss of those we love.

incline · 09-14-2005, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by guitarmonkey<><

Death is a curse related to sin, it is not a joyous event. Being renewed in Christ is the joyous event. We still weep for the loss of those we love.

6For I am already being poured out like a drink offering, and the time has come for my departure. 7I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. 8Now there is in store for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me on that day—and not only to me, but also to all who have longed for his appearing.

Doesn't sound sad to me.

danalyn · 09-14-2005, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by guitarmonkey<><

It is ok. Not to the children or the family that person left behind.
Jesus was saddened for the loss of John the Baptist.

He also cried when he found out Lazarus was dead.

Matt, death is ok for the believer. That's true. My Grandfather passed away last spring. He was in alot of pain and struggling for breath for the last week. And much as we knew that he wasn't in pain anymore and he was in a much better place I still cried. I cried lots. Death is not something generally greeted with laughter and joy... even if the person has passed on to the presence of God

guitarmonkey<>< · 09-14-2005, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by incline

6For I am already being poured out like a drink offering, and the time has come for my departure. 7I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. 8Now there is in store for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me on that day—and not only to me, but also to all who have longed for his appearing.

Doesn't sound sad to me.

Missing the boat. Death is a bad thing. The being renwewed in Christ for a believer is the good thing. Death Bad. Heaven Good.

We can still mourn the loss of loveed ones. And, hold respect for those who have died, instead of making a video meant to be funny.

incline · 09-14-2005, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by danalyn

He also cried when he found out Lazarus was dead.

Matt, death is ok for the believer. That's true. My Grandfather passed away last spring. He was in alot of pain and struggling for breath for the last week. And much as we knew that he wasn't in pain anymore and he was in a much better place I still cried. I cried lots. Death is not something generally greeted with laughter and joy... even if the person has passed on to the presence of God

I guess I just don't get that. When I almost died on 2000, I was pretty ready to go. No sadness, just a preparedness to meet Him. That makes me think that if my loved-ones should pass on, they would feel the same and I should remember that.

incline · 09-14-2005, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by guitarmonkey<><

Missing the boat. Death is a bad thing. The being renwewed in Christ for a believer is the good thing. Death Bad. Heaven Good.

We can still mourn the loss of loveed ones. And, hold respect for those who have died, instead of making a video meant to be funny.

That video is not intended to be funny. Neither is the shovel one.

Dang, I don't understand you.

danalyn · 09-14-2005, 06:43 PM

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Dang, I don't understand you.

that seems mutual.

incline · 09-14-2005, 06:44 PM

Good. We are in agreement.

danalyn · 09-14-2005, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by incline

I guess I just don't get that. When I almost died on 2000, I was pretty ready to go. No sadness, just a preparedness to meet Him. That makes me think that if my loved-ones should pass on, they would feel the same and I should remember that.

I'm ready to go. There are things I might be sad that I missed (having children) but I'm ready to go... But if Chris were to go, or my little brother

Andrew · 09-14-2005, 06:56 PM

The act of death is a sad thing. Going to be with our Lord and Savior is a wonderful thing.

What inspiried this, Matt?

danalyn · 09-14-2005, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew

The act of death is a sad thing. Going to be with our Lord and Savior is a wonderful thing.

What inspiried this, Matt?

this thread

danalyn · 09-14-2005, 11:24 PM

not meaning to pick a fight or be offensive at all, but Matt, have you ever lost anyone close to you or anyone you loved?