[Dark Tofu]

Wow you've given me a lot. But First i need to say i'm not a geocintrist or a flat earth person. I speculate on that theory there. (meaning my posted theory)

[Gsus_Rawks]

Originally Posted by evo81

No, we are taking God's word as it is. O I get it, so when the bible sais God made the world in six days, it actually means six long ages.

No, for three reasons i can tell you that is not true

1) In Genesis, It says "There was day, and there was night the # day"
2) If plants were created "ages" after the sun, they would all die
3) If fish were created before plants, they would have nothing to feed on for "ages"

Originally Posted by http://www.letusreason.org/current7.htm

"Adam was made on the 6th day, he died at 930 years old. So each day can’t be 1,000 years or even a million as some claim to fit in with the theory of evolution. Since the 7th day followed the 6th we would have days that become years. If we change the days to years or ages then we have to change years to what? What do we do when its called years? What happens if we stay within the construct of this day equals age theory? If each day in the Genesis account represents a thousand or even a million years, then what do we do with the age of Adam. Adam lived 930 years. So if each year has 360 days that would be 360 million years. Multiply that with 930 years and we have Adam older than the earth and even the universe."

[Gsus_Rawks]

Id post somthing, but im not willing to take the time and find out where you are in your conversation...

to me it just looks like poorly constructed chaos

[Qingu]

Originally Posted by Gsus_Rawks

No, for three reasons i can tell you that is not true

1) In Genesis, It says "There was day, and there was night the # day"
2) If plants were created "ages" after the sun, they would all die
3) If fish were created before plants, they would have nothing to feed on for "ages"

So when the same chapter of Genesis describes the sky as a solid dome (raqia) in which God sets the sun, moon and stars, that means the sky is actually a solid dome and there's water above it? I thought you weren't a geocentrist.

[Dark Tofu]

I've always wondered if the Book of Jasher should be in the place of Genesis. It would fit in perfectly...

Even if Genesis is correct, all of the events written to that point were written before man. Who says that God had a different perception of a 'day' at that point because man wasn't there to set a 'day'. To God a year can be a millinium and vice versa.

[Qingu]

Originally Posted by Dark Tofu

I've always wondered if the Book of Jasher should be in the place of Genesis. It would fit in perfectly...

Even if Genesis is correct, all of the events written to that point were written before man. Who says that God had a different perception of a 'day' at that point because man wasn't there to set a 'day'. To God a year can be a millinium and vice versa.

You still have the problem of light, earth and plants existing before the sun, whales existing before land mammals, etc.

[Gsus_Rawks]

Originally Posted by Qingu

So when the same chapter of Genesis describes the sky as a solid dome (raqia) in which God sets the sun, moon and stars, that means the sky is actually a solid dome and there's water above it? I thought you weren't a geocentrist.

Wha?

can u show me this? As I dont believe it...

that, or its a biased point of view

[Qingu]

Originally Posted by Gsus_Rawks

Wha?

can u show me this? As I dont believe it...

that, or its a biased point of view

Read this thread, we talk about it in here.

[Gsus_Rawks]

Originally Posted by Qingu

You still have the problem of light, earth and plants existing before the sun, whales existing before land mammals, etc.

The Bible was not written by atheists, Nor are those who believe it. When God said let thier be light, there was light... Prehaps that was the light of His face. Prehaps that was Light from a lightbulb he temperarily placed in the sky.

God is all powerful.

[Dark Tofu]

There is no problem with light, either the light is God's spiritual light or (in my opinion the more likely) light still remnent from the Big Bang. Animals exist after the sun and moon are created.

[Qingu]

Originally Posted by Gsus_Rawks

The Bible was not written by atheists, Nor are those who believe it. When God said let thier be light, there was light... Prehaps that was the light of His face. Prehaps that was Light from a lightbulb he temperarily placed in the sky.

God is all powerful.

I don't deny that your God is supposedly all-powerful. Is it not also within his power to create a sun that revolves around the earth? Or a flat earth that looks round? The Bible says he did.

[Gsus_Rawks]

Originally Posted by Qingu

I don't deny that your God is supposedly all-powerful. Is it not also within his power to create a sun that revolves around the earth? Or a flat earth that looks round? The Bible says he did.

I bet you are a friend of M-O-A-OAZIS

[Gsus_Rawks]

Originally Posted by Qingu

I don't deny that your God is supposedly all-powerful. Is it not also within his power to create a sun that revolves around the earth? Or a flat earth that looks round? The Bible says he did.

Give me a direct verse that says "the earth is flat" or "the sun revolves around the earth"

[grand_master_d]

Originally Posted by Gsus_Rawks

Give me a direct verse that says "the earth is flat" or "the sun revolves around the earth"

Give me a direct verse that says this planet is 6,000 years old...

*slowly walks away... not believing he's actually going to go through this again...*

I may not return, for my own sanity...

[Gsus_Rawks]

I would, BUT it would be about 40 hours of copy and pasting from "BibleGateway.com" and About an hour of reading for you... im not ready to do that.