how old is the earth?

christian_boy_7 · 09-04-2005, 08:41 PM

on an old tape i have from when i was younger, they figure that the earth is about 10 000 tears old

Godreignsoveral · 09-04-2005, 09:56 PM

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my only experience with kent hovine is that during his presentation on the age of the earth, he put a cross as the background to his pro-creation points and a schwastika (sp?) behind the evolution points. that left me disregarding anything he has to say by the fact that he would make such an irrelevent and disgusting correlation.

Actually, though it may seem irrelevant, in their minds and others is may not be. Some believe that Hitler was the fruit of belief in evolution. Out with the inferior, in with the better. *shrugs* I just read a similar message discussing that. I think they have their point... indirectly... though it may not be a strong enough point to argue procreation or even just antievolution... really it's just a sidenote observation.

Mark

Crazy4Christ14 · 09-05-2005, 12:37 AM

Well, the age of the earth question is certainly a controversial subject.

The earth is approximately 6,000 years OLD. That doesn't mean that God couldn't have created things a way down the road already. In other words, this is why the radiometric dating methods all give enormously varying results, as to where they're SUPPOSED to be accurate. God created some things a little further decayed then others, and this makes perfect sense. So yes, some rocks appear millions of years old, and actually, at todays decay rates are millions of old, but haven't passed through millions of years of time.

I like Hovind's comment about the start of evolution. Satan in the garden of Eden,"ye shall be as Gods." Atheism, "I am God." Hovind was right about Hitler though. Hitler was trying to promote the Aryan race and not let the bad genes from the Jews or Blacks get dilluted back into the population. He thought the Aryans had evolved further and therefore was trying to eliminate the inferiors.

s0233425 · 09-05-2005, 07:42 AM

God created the earth with the apperance of age. Just like he created Adam to be a fully formed man, not a baby. He would look about 25 yrs old (or thereabouts, speculation I know) but only be days old. Therefore I believe the earth to be about 6000 years give or take a thousand, but was made with the appearance of age.

Also, carbon dating is very inaccurate. (just a random statement there! But a lot of people will argue that the fossils et cetera prove that the earth is older, but they don't)
http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs...bon_dating.asp

OneHope · 09-05-2005, 09:51 AM

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God created the earth with the apperance of age. Just like he created Adam to be a fully formed man, not a baby. He would look about 25 yrs old (or thereabouts, speculation I know) but only be days old. Therefore I believe the earth to be about 6000 years give or take a thousand, but was made with the appearance of age.

Is that even biblical?

nate95366 · 09-05-2005, 10:00 AM

Going by human observation of evidence (what we can see, detect with instruments, and the like), the earth appears to be somewhere between 4 and 6 billion years old.

Going by a literal scripture interpretation would place the current times as about 7,000 years after Adam was created.

Right now, I'd say I'm more inclined to believe what my eyes can see on any given day, especially given the amount of scholarly opinion I've heard that suggests that much of Genesis is not a literal historical account. But that's just where I am today - I suppose you could say that my opinion on the matter is in a constant state of evolution.

Nate

s0233425 · 09-05-2005, 11:29 AM

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Is that even biblical?

Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

He was formed, not born. I've always taken it to mean that Adam was never a baby.

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about 6000 years old

Sounds pretty biblical to me.

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made with the appearance of age

Again, if adam was made old, and all the trees and plants and animals were all made fully grown, then why not the planet too?

Dark Tofu · 09-05-2005, 11:37 AM

Why do you all assume I am pro-evolution? I take the 6 days figuratively. But I am pro-creation. You think that Adam was created as a twenty five year old? Is this because the Bible says he was created in God's own image? If so, then Seth was born as a twenty five year old. (Genesis 5:3)

Also were the 'dinosaurs' created already dead and into oil?

OneHope · 09-05-2005, 01:07 PM

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Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

He was formed, not born. I've always taken it to mean that Adam was never a baby.

Yeah, but how can you say the same of the earth? As soon as you say that the earth only 'looks' old then you are beginning to interpret Genesis in the light of science. God never says anything about making the earth look old.

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Again, if adam was made old, and all the trees and plants and animals were all made fully grown, then why not the planet too?

You are speculating. Why not speculate that the earth is billions of years old and that Genesis is figurative if you are going to speculate that far.

I have thought about this question a lot (the question of how old the earth is) and I have decided that it doesn't matter, creation science/research never converts people and there are better places to put our money/time such as dealing with poverty and corruption in thirdworld countries. I have decided that I don't care which one happened and all that matters is that God is behind everything we see.

Daniel21TX · 09-05-2005, 01:32 PM

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Is that even biblical?

Is the thought that the earth is 4-6 billion years old biblical? No. In fact, Jesus seemed to believe the earth He created was a young one, unless you believe that when He said Mark 10:6 "But from the beginning of creation, 'God made them male and female.' ", He really meant about 5 billion years or so after the begining or you might believe that the genealogies are not literal as well, but of course that would mean that you don't believe Jesus' genealogy in Luke 3 was literal, because Jesus' genealogy traces back to Adam. It is strange that some people can insist on a literal reading on some verses when there is biblical reasons to take it figuratively yet read other passages as figuratively with little to no biblical basis, at least that I know of. If you have any biblical basis for taking the account in genesis figuratively feel free to provide it.

evo81 · 09-05-2005, 03:16 PM

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I have thought about this question a lot (the question of how old the earth is) and I have decided that it doesn't matter, creation science/research never converts people and there are better places to put our money/time such as dealing with poverty and corruption in thirdworld countries. I have decided that I don't care which one happened and all that matters is that God is behind everything we see.

Creation Science/Research does matter. There are many people that have been deceived into believing we are a product of chance and that there is no creator God. I have read many accounts of people who through the work of answersingenesis and others have come to know the Lord. I personally believe that evolution is a stronghold of satan which must be smashed down.

nolidad · 09-05-2005, 03:59 PM

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Also were the 'dinosaurs' created already dead and into oil?

Well it does not take a long time like the evolutionists say to take carbon remains and turn them into oil. Stanford Univeristy took a ton of garbage- and with high pressure and twenty minutes turned it into a barrel of low grade crude.

Godreignsoveral · 09-05-2005, 04:14 PM

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Well it does not take a long time like the evolutionists say to take carbon remains and turn them into oil. Stanford Univeristy took a ton of garbage- and with high pressure and twenty minutes turned it into a barrel of low grade crude.

Any chance you have a link to that... I'd LOVE to read more about that.

Mark

OneHope · 09-05-2005, 04:27 PM

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Is the thought that the earth is 4-6 billion years old biblical? No. In fact, Jesus seemed to believe the earth He created was a young one, unless you believe that when He said Mark 10:6 "But from the beginning of creation, 'God made them male and female.' ", He really meant about 5 billion years or so after the begining or you might believe that the genealogies are not literal as well, but of course that would mean that you don't believe Jesus' genealogy in Luke 3 was literal, because Jesus' genealogy traces back to Adam. It is strange that some people can insist on a literal reading on some verses when there is biblical reasons to take it figuratively yet read other passages as figuratively with little to no biblical basis, at least that I know of. If you have any biblical basis for taking the account in genesis figuratively feel free to provide it.

You can't use the Bible to figure out what is figurative in the Bible. We find out what is figurative in the Bible by looking to science and things outside the Bible. Truth will never contradict truth.

OneHope · 09-05-2005, 04:30 PM

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Creation Science/Research does matter. There are many people that have been deceived into believing we are a product of chance and that there is no creator God. I have read many accounts of people who through the work of answersingenesis and others have come to know the Lord. I personally believe that evolution is a stronghold of satan which must be smashed down.

I guess it comes down to the age old question of who we want to save.