I was accused of being a Yankee/Southern Rights/Slavery Debate

Travis · 08-20-2005, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by onebrickshy

These type of arguments do lead to the stereotypes that pollute everything today. I am a redneck(not a hick, hillbilly, whitetrash, or any of that).

In modern usage, redneck predominantly refers to a particular stereotype of whites from the Southern United States. The word can be used either as a pejorative or as a matter of pride, depending on context.(THanks wikipedia)

I am a redneck through many generations because i come from a family rooted in agriculture.

Let them call you whatever they will. Let’s see those city boys survive without depending upon you farmers!

guitarmonkey<>< · 08-20-2005, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis

Haha! What sort of bias? I am proud of my Southern heritage, and I am by no means a "redneck." I am proud that my ancestors fought for the Confederate States of America against an enemy invader in the War of Northern Aggression, and I believe that the South was right.

I am a Texan and a Southerner before I am an American. But even before the former two, I am a Christian.

The line about killing Yankees is a joke (mostly

).

The girl I am dating is from Chicago, Illinois—"the land of Lincoln"—by the way. So I don’t hate all Northerners.

I know, I just get prickled. I have a headache and am a bear right now. So, apologies.

guitarmonkey<>< · 08-20-2005, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis

Let them call you whatever they will. Let’s see those city boys survive without depending upon you farmers!

Lol,
I am by no means a "city boy". I am actually a mixture of a redneck and a yankee, I just happened to be born in NY. But, it is funny. Most city boys would love to be on a farm, and a lot of my farm boy cousins are envious of my "big city".

Visirale · 08-20-2005, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis

Haha! What sort of bias? I am proud of my Southern heritage, and I am by no means a "redneck." I am proud that my ancestors fought for the Confederate States of America against an enemy invader in the War of Northern Aggression, and I believe that the South was right.

I am a Texan and a Southerner before I am an American. But even before the former two, I am a Christian.

The line about killing Yankees is a joke (mostly

).

The girl I am dating is from Chicago, Illinois—"the land of Lincoln"—by the way. So I don’t hate all Northerners.

I'm no civil war expert, but if you support the south, you support the main proponent of slavery.

Now I'm going to imagine you as looking like Colonel Sanders sitting in a rocking chair enjoying the sunny antebellum afternoon.

I have deep southern roots, but I am not proud of it at all. I feel like a northeasterner stuck in the body of a southerner. My great uncles started Dixie County, and were high up in a certain group that I am appalled by.

The way I see it, the south's past isn't pretty, and I can't wait to get the hell out of here.

**Leboman** · 08-20-2005, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew

I have never said the word "y'all" in my life. And I speak with articulate grammar. I have never been called a Yankee, and I am good friends with many people who are... Hillbilly types. Like, people that don't even know what an MP3 player is. They'll talk your ears off about their vehicles though.

Anyhow. I have never had problems with them thinking I am a Yankee. I mess around with them, and tell them they are slobs, and they tell me I am fancy. I love them, but we aren't the same, and we both know it. We don't care either.

I proudly say ya'll. It sounds better than youse guys.

onebrickshy · 08-20-2005, 06:18 PM

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Let them call you whatever they will. Let’s see those city boys survive without depending upon you farmers!

Hank was right

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Originally Posted by Visirale

I'm no civil war expert, but if you support the south, you support the main proponent of slavery.

Now I'm going to imagine you as looking like Colonel Sanders sitting in a rocking chair enjoying the sunny antebellum afternoon.

I have deep southern roots, but I am not proud of it at all. I feel like a northeasterner stuck in the body of a southerner. My great uncles started Dixie County, and were high up in a certain group that I am appalled by.

The way I see it, the south's past isn't pretty, and I can't wait to get the hell out of here.

There was a lot more to the Civil War than slaves(common misconception). My family fought and died for the land of Dixie but had no slaves. In fact they were subsistance farmers(there were slaves that were better off than them) Alot of the war stems from taxes and rivals. And don't forget that the north was not the land of the free. If you were a free black in the North you were often time treated just as bad. Oh, and Northern owned slaves too.

DreamChaser · 08-20-2005, 06:18 PM

Heya,

I don't understand it when southern people feel insulted when other people think they are a "yankee". I'd be more insulted if I was called a redneck, than a yankee.

Then again when it really comes down to it, I couldn't care less what strangers think of me.

Tracy · 08-20-2005, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew

I have never said the word "y'all" in my life.

I'm still trying to figure out how I managed to pick that up, being not only not a Southerner, but not an American by any stretch of the imagination...

I blame CGR.

onebrickshy · 08-20-2005, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tracy

I'm still trying to figure out how I managed to pick that up, being not only not a Southerner, but not an American by any stretch of the imagination...

I blame CGR.

Through a racing team i know some engineering students form ETS and i managed to teach'em some southern phrases this summer

Visirale · 08-20-2005, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by onebrickshy

There was a lot more to the Civil War than slaves(common misconception). My family fought and died for the land of Dixie but had no slaves. In fact they were subsistance farmers(there were slaves that were better off than them) Alot of the war stems from taxes and rivals. And don't forget that the north was not the land of the free. If you were a free black in the North you were often time treated just as bad. Oh, and Northern owned slaves too.

I know that there was more than the war than slaves. And I know the north wasn't the poster-child of an ideal situation for Blacks. Our contry should be colelctively ashamed of our treatment of African-Americans pre-deseg.

I don't know. I just have a strong disdain for the south, and when I see people parading around a confederate flag it makes me pretty angry.

Travis · 08-20-2005, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Visirale

I'm no civil war expert, but if you support the south, you support the main proponent of slavery.

I may support the "main proponent of slavery," but that doesn't mean I have to support slavery itself.

Lee and Jackson, and most of the other great Southern generals owned no slaves.

I support the South in the War of Northern Aggression because the states had the legal right to secede. I disagree with the institution of slavery as it was made manifest in the US at that time. States' rights were the issue; slavery just happened to be the sub-issue "straw that broke the camel's back."

onebrickshy · 08-20-2005, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis

I may support the "main proponent of slavery," but that doesn't mean I have to support slavery itself.

Lee and Jackson, and most of the other great Southern generals owned no slaves.

I support the South in the War of Northern Aggression because the states had the legal right to secede. I disagree with the institution of slavery as it was made manifest in the US at that time. States' rights were the issue; slavery just happened to be the sub-issue "straw that broke the camel's back."

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I hate the fact that people owned other people but I do support the states right to protect itself

underoathrocks · 08-20-2005, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate

You live in *checks*... Oregon.

What room do you have to talk?

no no no not like that. it didn't come out right i meant it would suck. i do live in oregon and yes i'd rather be a city kid or suburb kid than some hillybilly sorta redneck

. but if i had to pick between yankee

and rebel

i'd pick rebel cuz all my relatives since my dad have lived in texas, oklahoma, all those states and two of my great great great great grampas fought as rebels in the cival war. by all that i mean texas and those are like my home that i just don't live in now.