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Unread 07-19-2005, 11:03 AM   #1
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Jon Foreman

i just realized Jon Foreman (Switchfoot) uses really bad vocal technique (especially on the first couple of albums) but everyone (including myself) loves his voice. why is this? is there just a quality that his voice has that makes it sound good no matter what? does anyone agree with me? who likes his voice?

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Unread 07-19-2005, 11:43 AM   #2
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iono but everyone i kno who likes the band wants to sing like him. He's just gifted to the beyond that even if he uses bad techniques or wat have you it just sounds good.

another thought is that if he does uses bad techniques and still sounds good imagine if he used good techniques.
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Heya,

Sometimes I think he sounds rather bad.
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They definitely give him a lot of help when they master the CD's.
I heard him live once and I thought he was awful. Major pitch problems, among other things.
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iono but everyone i kno who likes the band wants to sing like him.
i wouldn't really mind sounding like him
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He's just gifted to the beyond that even if he uses bad techniques or wat have you it just sounds good.

another thought is that if he does uses bad techniques and still sounds good imagine if he used good techniques
no kidding like John L. Cooper (Skillet) has a terrible voice (in my opinion), and he would even if he used good technique. great writer, bad voice and then there's people like Tyler Burkum (Audio Adrenaline) and Phil Joel (Newsboys, Phil Joel), who have good voices AND use good vocal technique. *sigh* wish we had more of those
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Sometimes I think he sounds rather bad.
this is true... like in the song "erosion", when he says "erosion" in the chorus, he kinda says "eroosion" (as in roof). that was caused by straining and not opening his mouth as much as he should have.
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I heard him live once and I thought he was awful. Major pitch problems, among other things.
when was this? before the Beautiful Letdown, he may have taken voice lessons. he sounds like he's using slightly better techniques. and yes, i've noticed several times on his earlier cds where he had some trouble staying on pitch.

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when was this? before the Beautiful Letdown, he may have taken voice lessons. he sounds like he's using slightly better techniques. and yes, i've noticed several times on his earlier cds where he had some trouble staying on pitch.
I saw Switchfoot in March of '04 (post TBL) and his vocals were still pretty bad...but they put on a decent live show.

also, i've heard live tracks in the last few months of songs from TBL and in the studios he also has trouble with them (especially the high parts on "Dare you to Move")
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I saw Switchfoot in March of '04 (post TBL) and his vocals were still pretty bad...but they put on a decent live show.

also, i've heard live tracks in the last few months of songs from TBL and in the studios he also has trouble with them (especially the high parts on "Dare you to Move")
yeah he strains for "Dare you to Move". tsk tsk. that is when falsetto comes in handy
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Or that's when tuning down helps. HEHEHEHE!
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I wish i could sing like him, wait, i just wish i could sing in sorta of a in tune voice.
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They definitely give him a lot of help when they master the CD's.
I heard him live once and I thought he was awful. Major pitch problems, among other things.
I've seen the band live thrice. Twice, he was spot on. The other time, not so much.
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When i have seen him in live videos most of the time he is pretty close to what he sounds like on the CD.
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I've seen the band live thrice. Twice, he was spot on. The other time, not so much.
I've seen him once, and he sounded just fine live. No pitch problems at all.
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this is true... like in the song "erosion", when he says "erosion" in the chorus, he kinda says "eroosion" (as in roof). that was caused by straining and not opening his mouth as much as he should have.
Though this is probably unrelated to Jon Foreman, I sometimes catch myself totally screwing up the pronounciation of words randomly and for no reason. On that song in particular, it's kinda funny that he says eroosion. Yeah, he's not dropping his jaw.
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when was this? before the Beautiful Letdown, he may have taken voice lessons. he sounds like he's using slightly better techniques. and yes, i've noticed several times on his earlier cds where he had some trouble staying on pitch.
This was just a few months ago.
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Though this is probably unrelated to Jon Foreman, I sometimes catch myself totally screwing up the pronounciation of words randomly and for no reason. On that song in particular, it's kinda funny that he says eroosion. Yeah, he's not dropping his jaw.
Yeah, unless you're classically trained, you will have at least some unconcious "vowel movement."
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"vowel movement"?

*raises an eyebrow*

only a few months ago? hmmm... mabe he didn't warm up. or, perhaps he never does who knows?
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