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Old 05-16-2005, 02:08 AM   #16
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maybe he's a luke warm christian.

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Old 05-16-2005, 02:21 AM   #17
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Sorry! Felt the need to count them!
I understand, but the leadership of this site does not approve of this kind of activity outside of the cheap post forum.

As to Mark Tremonti... if he is a Christian, he is an embarrasment to my faith. I do not proclaim to know his heart, though.
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Old 05-16-2005, 02:29 AM   #18
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I'll try not to do suttin like that again. I never sat and thought of that before about mark but I wish he was a christian.
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Well maybe in his heart he wants to say he's a christian, but he's scared to or suttin.
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Well maybe in his heart he wants to say he's a christian, but he's scared to or suttin.
....then he's the biggest panzy on the entire planet who's embarressed by his Savior....thus he's not a Christian of any character. Last time I heard Peter denying Christ was a really big and bad thing. Mark's denied Christ well over 3 times and he's continuned to do so for the past 8 years.
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True if I was in a band as big as Creed I would definetly proclaim that Jesus is my saviour cause I'm a christian . So that's a big point you just made, cause there ain't a doubt in my mind that I would do that.
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Well maybe in his heart he wants to say he's a christian, but he's scared to or suttin.
Hah. You're desparately grasping for anything that might give you a tad bit of hope. Come on, face it. There is nothing to show that he is a Christian. There's more evidence that he's not (being "spiritual"? If he was a Christian he probably wouldn't say that...unless like Sean said, he was the biggest panzy ever).

I've deleted that smilies post (and the subsequent posts). Why you couldn't just count them without actually posting it is completely beyond me. Also, please edit posts when you have something else to say. Look at posts 18 and 19, or several other examples in this thread alone. You posted those two posts two minutes apart. The ability to edit posts is here for a reason.

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Old 05-17-2005, 08:08 PM   #23
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K so he isn't and gotcha
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i read on his website that he grew up in a very christian house so he maybe
or may not be i don't know only him and god knows
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I don't understand why people are so worried about 'is so and so Christian' and such. How can you know at all? Nobody can know. Just because I say I'm a Christian doesn't necessarily mean I am, you know? You can't know someone else's heart, and that's not our job to know.
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Dude, I tryed doing the same thing a long time ago. I looked for any and every reason I could find to prove that Creed were Christian. They are not and never were. At least they didnt live like it. I guess I dont know their hearts are "christian" but judging by their constant denial of it, I wouldnt count on it.
I had hope that Stapp really was Christian when Creed broke up, because he came out that he had changed and openly professed his faith. He is one of the greatest embaresments to christianity, just look at the crap he keeps getting himself into. The bar fights, the sex tape, his recent tv appearences where he made himself to look like a sex crased idiot...the list goes on.

I know this thread is about Mark, but as stated many times already, he denies it to his death. I wish I knew where that interview was where Mark openly said he had no interest in being associated with christianity...
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Whoaw... I didn't know so much about Creed and Alter Bridge, Tremonti. Feels weird... like shocking :S. I first thought of Tremonti being awesome and whatever.
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He is one of the greatest embaresments to christianity, just look at the crap he keeps getting himself into. The bar fights, the sex tape, his recent tv appearences where he made himself to look like a sex crased idiot...the list goes on.
The sex tape was made in 1999. Don't hold his past against him, please.

Also, he didn't start the bar fight. That's been documented by police.

One more thing, I'm probably what you would consider "sex-crazed". Am I an embarassment to Christianity now?
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The sex tape was made in 1999. Don't hold his past against him, please.

Also, he didn't start the bar fight. That's been documented by police.

One more thing, I'm probably what you would consider "sex-crazed". Am I an embarassment to Christianity now?
Are you a public figure who both proclaims Christ and has a reputation for getting into bar fights, sex-scandals and controversies? It doesn't really matter whether he started the fight or not. What matters is that he's living his Christian life in such a reckless way that when accusations are made against him they stick. When people think of a model Christian or even a "good person," few people think of Scott Stapp. If we use Titus 2 as the measure of a Christian man, Scott Stapp isn't doing very well (most of us aren't). However, the problem is amplified by the fact that he is a public figure. Therefore its even more imperative that he be an example of good because his life reaches far more people than the average Christian. Thus when charges are brought against Scott Stapp and they stick, it is an embarressment to Christianity. The average non-Christian has plenty of ammunition against Scott Stapp.

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6 Similarly, encourage the young men to be self-controlled. 7 In everything set them an example by doing what is good. In your teaching show integrity, seriousness 8 and soundness of speech that cannot be condemned, so that those who oppose you may be ashamed because they have nothing bad to say about us.
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The sex tape was made in 1999. Don't hold his past against him, please.
I'm not holding his past against him, it would be one thing if he came out and apologized for it or made some sort of confession of his mistakes. He hasn't, he doesnt seem to care.

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The recent 311 brawl?

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One more thing, I'm probably what you would consider "sex-crazed". Am I an embarassment to Christianity now?
He recently appeared on some tv show wasted talking about his love for groupies and "...banging 7 chicks at one time..." Do you make an image for yourself like that? if you do, than I would'nt recomend proclaiming faith...
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