George W. Bush

JerryLove · 05-10-2005, 12:40 PM

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Does it matter? What could you do about it. Sit around and be pissed and make no change?

Please read the topic "do you approve of W" and see if "Do you approve of [insert action] of W's" is relevent ("matters") to the topic at hand.

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I have no idea what that means.

Bush tried to say that phrase and forgot his line. In being able to repeat it on-demand, I've done a better job... it's one of the few things I have the opportunity to compare directly with W. I could compare my life to his pre-presidental life (no DWIs, better than Ds in school, etc.), but other than "not lying" compared to Bush, or my own actual consistancy, or my general intellectual honesty, I can't compare myself to someone with so different a job by actual performance, only informed speculation.

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Do you have any idea of the sheer pressure Bush must be under every second of the day?

Yes.

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And what would you do, anyway? Pull out the troops?

Overly hpothetical, and requiring an answer based on more information than I have. (see above).

OneHope · 05-10-2005, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by +Donny

OneHope: Canadians should not be trusted. They refuse to move south and join the New Israel.

True, we can't trust Paul Martin either. It seems like North America has been suffering through a 'show up your father' complex for the last little while.

texandawg1288 · 05-10-2005, 03:35 PM

These threads make me giggle.

Go George Bush.

OneHope · 05-10-2005, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by texandawg1288

These threads make me giggle.

Go George Bush.

Yes, Go George Bush, go home.

texandawg1288 · 05-10-2005, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHope

Yes, Go George Bush, go home.

Eh, if he went home, then he wouldn't be president. So he can wait till his term is over, then c'mon home back to Texas.

***BillSPrestonEsq*** · 05-10-2005, 03:58 PM

truly undecided. A lot of positives and negatives.

September 11th was handled well, however, the war on terror following this is ridiculous.

Saddam should have been removed from power, yes, but the timing was fishy. The Iraqi war was done with a relatively low loss of human life, but Afghanistan still looms heavy on the horizon.

And the nagging thought is, why not Sudan?

I am suspicious of his motivations even though I approve of a lot of his actions in their outworking.

Danny · 05-10-2005, 05:12 PM

No.

I'll at least grant that he seems like a genuinely nice guy, though. Unfortunately, that doesn't make him qualified to be the president of anything, much less a country, much less the United States.

Danny · 05-10-2005, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Only Alive

I have no idea what that means.

Do you have any idea of the sheer pressure Bush must be under every second of the day? And what would you do, anyway? Pull out the troops?

-Nick

Are you kidding me, man? Why are you even bothering to debate this if you are (self-admittedly and quite apparently) so apathetic toward politics that you really have no idea what you're even talking about? Do you really think the war in Iraq is the only reason we're pissed off?

Nate · 05-10-2005, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Are you kidding me, man? Why are you even bothering to debate this if you are (self-admittedly and quite apparently) so apathetic toward politics that you really have no idea what you're even talking about? Do you really think the war in Iraq is the only reason we're pissed off?

Are you confusing him with me?

Danny · 05-10-2005, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dawntreader

its better to have a conservative in office than someone who is more liberal than TED KENNEDY! (kerry).

OMGNOTTEDKENNEDY!!1

I'm way more liberal than Kerry. And that's not really saying much.

Danny · 05-10-2005, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate

Are you confusing him with me?

No...well, maybe I did to a point. He said he hated politics, not that he's apathetic towards them. Whoops. Either way, it's still obvious that he doesn't really know what he's talking about.

OneHope · 05-10-2005, 08:13 PM

This is just speculation on my part but after hearing and watching Bush speak, it seems like he is just a puppet and someone else is just pulling the strings.

guitarguy · 05-11-2005, 12:40 AM

I support GW. He has made some good choices and some bad. So what. Put in the same situation could you do any better. And excuse him for not being perfect. I would rather have Bush who has admitted to a lot of the mistakes he made in the past than Kerry who has God knows what hidden in his closet. And as far as all of those soldiers dying in the war. With any war you are going to have casualties. Those young men and women knew when they enlisted that they had the possibility of going to war and dying for their country. Do I believe the war in Iraq was a good idea? Yes and no. I believe we needed to do something about Iraq but the timing was way off. I believe Clinton should have done something about it instead of just ignoring it.

Peace

-Jake-

PS- one hope, you are canadian......

Enough said

Danny · 05-11-2005, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by guitarguy

I support GW. He has made some good choices and some bad. So what.

Haha, as if it were that simple. You could use that sentence to sum up the actions of any President who's ever been in office. Heck, you could make that statement for any person who's ever lived. The problem comes when you look at the ratio of bad decisions to good decisions, the gravity of the bad ones and the effects of the good ones, attempts made to reconcile the bad ones, etc.

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Put in the same situation could you do any better.

Do you see me running for President? I can't write songs all that well either but I can tell you that Linkin Park sucks at it.

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And excuse him for not being perfect.

Excuse Adolph Hitler for not being perfect. I mean, pff, really, what do you expect from the guy?

That's a cop-out.

Note: I am not making any sort of attempt to compare Bush to Hitler.

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I would rather have Bush who has admitted to a lot of the mistakes he made in the past

Hold up right there. Is Bush not the guy who said that he really hasn't made any mistakes in office except for a few appointments?

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than Kerry who has God knows what hidden in his closet.

Oh, please don't tell me you're getting all of your information from thirty-second propaganda ads.

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And as far as all of those soldiers dying in the war. With any war you are going to have casualties.

Which is precisely why it's so gravely important to exercise utmost discernment in when and when not to go to war and to thoroughly exhaust all other options before taking such drastic measures.

Bottom line: We attacked a country on the assumption that they had weapons of mass destruction--which they didn't--and (sort of) to free the Iraqi people from an opressive dictatorship--even though we're doing nothing in Sudan and at least a few other places where helpless people whom we have the ability to help are far worse off than the people of Iraq were before we overthrew their government.

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PS- one hope, you are canadian......

Enough said

People like you make me not-so-proud to be an American.