Mn Gov. Pawlentys Party's Party

AlphaSigma · 05-03-2005, 09:06 AM

~@~MN gov. elect Tim Pawlenty won the most recent govenatorial race for MN under the commission of the rebuplican party. One of his slogans during his campagin was, "I will not raise taxes." which won him the Governor's seat where he currently sits.
I was curious doing the last state budget session how he was going to resolve a some $800 million deficit without raising or creating new taxes. it was found out after the session has ended that he had managed to reduce the defict to I beieve $150 million. I was curious how he was able to comprimise such an absurd amount of money without raising taxes.
Reading into the sessions reports I learned that he cut over $80 million in health -care coverage programs for the 320,000 people who live below the poverty line. Where he made property tax cuts for upper-middle class homeowners. The report goes on for about 80 pages about how the defict was resolved which in summary includes more cuts for the wealthy and more descrepincy for those struggling to stay off the streets.
I'm not here to quesion the faith of Pawlenty's "christian" ehtics. But I'm curious where his heart is when he's cutting heathcare for those that need it the most and putting cash in the pockets of his wealthy party members.

Your thoughts:

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**+Donny** · 05-04-2005, 12:03 PM

I don't know where I stand on it, but he isn't "putting cash in the pockets of his wealthy part members"; he is taking less cash out of their pockets. There is a huge difference.

Insane Drummer · 05-04-2005, 12:11 PM

What did you think he was going to do? Bring in money... Without raising taxes. The obvious thing is something is going to get cut, healthcare seems to be a popular target.

AlphaSigma · 05-05-2005, 06:39 PM

Yea but for people to cut out he cut hundreds of thousands of people out of health care that can't afford it. Cut numerous inner-city schollarship programs and city grants. Yet he's CUTTING TAXES ON SUBURBAN HOUSING? I'm sorry for sterotying but him and his party members live in upper-middleclass housing in the richest suburb of Minnesota (Edina)
How can someone who says his heart is for God sleep at night when he's robbing the people that need it most and PUTTING MONEY in the pockets of him and his fellow party members. You didn't think he would've LOST state money through tax-cuts if he wasn't getting a share of it would ya?
The tax cut was recieved by those who live in suburbia. With money like that he isn't gunna live on the "East side" of St. Paul. Not when he can enjoy a tax cut.

AlphaSigma · 05-05-2005, 06:42 PM

The programs he's cutting aren't working both ways ONLY for the Rich and against the poor.

"Whatever you did unto the least of these, you did unto me."
-Jesus-

JerryLove · 05-06-2005, 06:06 AM

Welcome to Neo-conservitivism... it's popular in the US, and on this board right now.

Though in the end, most neo-cons who promise now new taxes do one of two things: raise taxes, or run on deficit spending (BushSr did the former, BushJr the latter).

AlphaSigma · 05-06-2005, 06:32 PM

"word."

Nate · 05-07-2005, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Blade84135

Yea but for people to cut out he cut hundreds of thousands of people out of health care that can't afford it.

The government can't afford it either... hence the former $800 million deficit that you mentioned.

Nate · 05-07-2005, 12:09 AM

And regardless of your views on tax-cuts for the mid to upper classes, surely you realize that all politicians play to their constituents? Yes, it sucks, and yes, it's evil... but no, it's not changing anytime soon as long as we live in a democracy. Therein lies one of the interesting problems caused by the democratic system.

In His love,
Nate

**adamwagg** · 05-07-2005, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Nate

And regardless of your views on tax-cuts for the mid to upper classes, surely you realize that all politicians play to their constituents? Yes, it sucks, and yes, it's evil... but no, it's not changing anytime soon as long as we live in a democracy. Therein lies one of the interesting problems caused by the democratic system.

In His love,
Nate

This is an interesting point, but probably subtly different for our politicians in Australia. With compulsary voting, the die hard voters for other side of politics are few, and their are a large bloc in the middle.

This means that most of the money goes into marginal seats, targeting people who may be leaning slightly towards the other side. Safe seats even for the party get very little attention. It's more a case of politicians playing to the indicisive rather than their supporters, over here.

AlphaSigma · 05-27-2005, 08:56 AM

He shouldn't of been so ignorant in the first place to suggest "no new taxes" when he was aware of the deficit. He should apologized for his mistake and raise taxes to help compensate.
I would rather have my taxes raised then deny someone healthcare when they can't afford it.
And you can't tell me that he was unaware of this budget problem prior to being elected, I guarentee he was fully aware and he had this plan before he was elected. I've been around politics all my life and if this problem is due to his ignorance, then I say we should impeach him.