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gg7 05-14-2007 11:01 AM

I have a $5 soldering iron from Wal-Mart that works just fine for guitar work.
Tin your tips (coat them with solder when you're done) and they'll last longer. I also hit them with sandpaper now and then to clean them. Before I started doing those things I was going through tips in a hurry. Live and learn. You may already know that stuff, but I thought I'd mention it just in case.

All the parts do add up in a hurry. In at least two of my projects I was surprised at just how much the little things add up...especially if you're buying some stuff mail order and paying shipping like I was. Postal shipping rates are going up as of today too. Fun fun.

thesteve 05-14-2007 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by AXguitar (Post 2916888)
I have an iron right now... but it needs new tips...

can you just replace the tip itself? I know the one I got (Radio Shack) has a replaceable tip on it. Generally I just try to keep it clean and tinned though.

presbystrat 05-14-2007 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by AXguitar (Post 2916884)
Next time I get paid i'm going to order 44ga wire and 3 ceramic magnets and two humbucker bobbins and other various parts for my pickups... only thing is that I have a lot of bills stacking up and I don't know when my next paycheck comes in.

Why do you need 3 magnets for 2 humbuckers? Ceramic? Do you do a lot of heavy distortion stuff? I prefer a less strong alnico magnet which gives a mellower sound. The alnico V's can still pack a decent punch. Stronger magnets also pull on your strings more, giving you less sustain. How did you decide on 44ga wire? 42 ga wire seems to be standard on most pickups but the thinner wire will enable you to wind them hotter without the pickups getting too bassy and losing treble. My GFS overwound in the middle position of my Godin uses 43 ga wire; it is wound to 9k but still sounds very stratty. The stock bridge pickup on my Godin had 44 ga wire; I would have preferred it with an alnico V magnet though. Bear in mind that the thinner wire might be more likely to break when you are winding them. If you want to save money on the bobbins and slugs, you could buy some cheap or broken pickups off of Ebay and rewind them.

Ax 05-14-2007 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by presbystrat (Post 2916952)
Why do you need 3 magnets for 2 humbuckers? Ceramic? Do you do a lot of heavy distortion stuff? I prefer a less strong alnico magnet which gives a mellower sound. The alnico V's can still pack a decent punch. Stronger magnets also pull on your strings more, giving you less sustain. How did you decide on 44ga wire? 42 ga wire seems to be standard on most pickups but the thinner wire will enable you to wind them hotter without the pickups getting too bassy and losing treble. My GFS overwound in the middle position of my Godin uses 43 ga wire; it is wound to 9k but still sounds very stratty. The stock bridge pickup on my Godin had 44 ga wire; I would have preferred it with an alnico V magnet though. Bear in mind that the thinner wire might be more likely to break when you are winding them. If you want to save money on the bobbins and slugs, you could buy some cheap or broken pickups off of Ebay and rewind them.


... wow... i thought I had explained this already but maybe that was IM or a different thread...

I'm going for a very specific sound... When I solo, I want my tone to be very Brian May like... He used Burns Trisonic pickups which were vintage air coil pickups using 44ga wire with 5000 turns and the air coils were then moved from the winder onto ceramic bar magnets. So it will be HSS (hum for my heavier stuff and singles for my solos). BTW, I'm buying my bobbins and slugs for my humbuckers from a wholesaler. I want some burns inspired buckers but more ready to distort because I am in a grunge-esq band.

Rainer. 05-14-2007 07:18 PM

I wonder if I'm strange, because I don't really like Brian May's tone... hmm...

Ax 05-14-2007 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainer. (Post 2917518)
I wonder if I'm strange, because I don't really like Brian May's tone... hmm...

To each his own. I personally find him to be my guitar idol.

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Originally Posted by gg7 (Post 2916916)
I have a $5 soldering iron from Wal-Mart that works just fine for guitar work.
Tin your tips (coat them with solder when you're done) and they'll last longer. I also hit them with sandpaper now and then to clean them. Before I started doing those things I was going through tips in a hurry. Live and learn. You may already know that stuff, but I thought I'd mention it just in case.

All the parts do add up in a hurry. In at least two of my projects I was surprised at just how much the little things add up...especially if you're buying some stuff mail order and paying shipping like I was. Postal shipping rates are going up as of today too. Fun fun.

Yeah... there's a wholesaler near here...

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Originally Posted by thesteve (Post 2916918)
can you just replace the tip itself? I know the one I got (Radio Shack) has a replaceable tip on it. Generally I just try to keep it clean and tinned though.

I would replace them, however, there's nowhwere I know that sells compatible tips.

presbystrat 05-14-2007 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AXguitar (Post 2917496)
... wow... i thought I had explained this already but maybe that was IM or a different thread...

I'm going for a very specific sound... When I solo, I want my tone to be very Brian May like... He used Burns Trisonic pickups which were vintage air coil pickups using 44ga wire with 5000 turns and the air coils were then moved from the winder onto ceramic bar magnets. So it will be HSS (hum for my heavier stuff and singles for my solos). BTW, I'm buying my bobbins and slugs for my humbuckers from a wholesaler. I want some burns inspired buckers but more ready to distort because I am in a grunge-esq band.

Yes, I do remember talking about the pickups now. It was in this thread about a month ago. I don't recall talking about the coil wire though. What are air coils?

Not my cup of tea. I prefer pickups that will give me versatility but if you plan on playing one particular style, that's cool.

thesteve 05-15-2007 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by presbystrat (Post 2917936)
Yes, I do remember talking about the pickups now. It was in this thread about a month ago. I don't recall talking about the coil wire though. What are air coils?

air coils are bobbinless pickups. generally the coil is wound with a collapsible bobbin then placed directly around the magnet (I believe the coil is insulated so that it's not actually touching the magnet itself)

presbystrat 05-15-2007 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by thesteve (Post 2917941)
air coils are bobbinless pickups. generally the coil is wound with a collapsible bobbin then placed directly around the magnet (I believe the coil is insulated so that it's not actually touching the magnet itself)

That sounds like it would take quite a bit of skill to do.

Ax 05-15-2007 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by thesteve (Post 2917941)
air coils are bobbinless pickups. generally the coil is wound with a collapsible bobbin then placed directly around the magnet (I believe the coil is insulated so that it's not actually touching the magnet itself)

That's the general idea...

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Originally Posted by presbystrat (Post 2917991)
That sounds like it would take quite a bit of skill to do.

I plan on practicing a good bit with thread before I actually do the coils themselves... I have a fairly slow motor even as far as pickup winders go so I'm not worried too much...

I have been posting quite a bit on another forum that's nothing but guitar building and I have gotten advice from many luthiers on this...

like Steve said they're usually wound on a collapsible bobbin, and before you remove the bobbin you firmly (but not too firmly as to break the wire) pull both ends of the wire and pull it tight like after you lace a shoe and are about to tie it...

Then for the 'insulation' that steve is talking about, I was advised to use regular old masking tape, and all it really does it helps get the wire onto the bar magnet without the edges of the magnet cutting any of wire...

then there is some basic wiring and viola you have a pickup for a LOT cheaper than they sell them for and it should be of whatever quality you planned it for...

Btw...

I have three guitars so I find my versatility in them... actually... between this and my Artcore. Eventually I'm gonna build a telecaster style guitar and a guitar with P-90s and have a specific guitar for everything I play.

*Edit*

Carvin called me and my neck is due to ship Friday so it should be in next week sometime, too bad I'll be in Kennesaw.

I also have decided just to wind the wire directly onto the magnet, i've read places where this has worked.

Ax 06-04-2007 09:17 AM

I have the neck, just came, it's absolutely beautiful pictures are coming...

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1017/...998bcc.jpg?v=0
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1203/...2b1f8e.jpg?v=0
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1094/...a0990d.jpg?v=0
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1177/...3786fe.jpg?v=0
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/217/5...1e832a.jpg?v=0



Some wiring diagrams:

thesteve 06-04-2007 04:44 PM

man...it's definitely bothering me that i can't find any Fender Mustang wired in series schematics.

Ax 06-04-2007 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by thesteve (Post 2940509)
man...it's definitely bothering me that i can't find any Fender Mustang wired in series schematics.

Me too.


Those photo's by the way go to my flickr where I am going to create an album of me doing every step in the process of this...

Ax 07-08-2007 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AXguitar (Post 2940561)
Me too.


Those photo's by the way go to my flickr where I am going to create an album of me doing every step in the process of this...

Speaking of Flickr albums, Just updated it.


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