Day of Fire!

[dReAmIn4EvEr]

ok i cant find ne information on this band called "Day of Fire" but their song "cornerstone" is very cool. Has anyone else heard of them/ know where to find lyrics :D

[SystemOfAJon]

From what I remember hearing, they were pretty bland.

~Jon

[jguitarfreak]

I think they'll be pretty good. I like (from what i've heard so far) his songwriting. They also appeared at creation east to do a small set and they seemed pretty good. The frontman seemed kinda of nervous talking, still pretty good. Defiently buying their cd when it comes out.

[Vballfreak111]

Here are the lyrics to Day of Fire's Cornerstone!

<i>Please don't post complete lyrics. It is illegal, unless you own the copyright to the lyrics. You probably don't. Jon.</i>

[Mattlock]

I've heard they are a mix of 12 Stones and Pillar...
If so they are either Creed with a rapper or Limp Bizkit with a singer.

[TruthBringer]

You said:

From what I remember hearing, they were pretty bland.

~Jon

How thoughtful of you to insult a band you cannot remember from a CD that was not even out at the time you made your comment. I guess no one should expect any better from someone whose user name is a tribute to a secular band whose music includes blasphemous lyrics (System of a Down).

"If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain." - James 1:26

Truth

[rkfanandac2208]

I think Day of Fire has the potential to be a fairly good band as long as they don't fall into the trap of "parroting" another modern rock group. I saw them in concert with Tobymac and Third Day and it did seem the singer had a little stage fright. After introducing the song, the lead singer instead burst into another song other than the one that he introduced. The band had to stop and play a different song about 3 seconds into the song. Talk about embarrasing. Overall, I think that even if their music turns out crappy, the lead singers' personal testimony is probably the best part of the band. When you have a guy like that who's so on fire for God, I can't help but think that in some way, God will use them to impact somebody.

[Mattlock]

You said:



How thoughtful of you to insult a band you cannot remember from a CD that was not even out at the time you made your comment. I guess no one should expect any better from someone whose user name is a tribute to a secular band whose music includes blasphemous lyrics (System of a Down).

"If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain." - James 1:26

Truth
First of all, yes, they are bland. Second of all, I'm 100% sure that his name doesn't come from that band. Third of all, System Of A Down is pretty cool..

[Andrew]

How thoughtful of you to insult a band you cannot remember from a CD that was not even out at the time you made your comment. I guess no one should expect any better from someone whose user name is a tribute to a secular band whose music includes blasphemous lyrics (System of a Down).That... Would be a personal insult. Even if Jon was a blaspheming heretic, you just lowered yourself below him. Please try to demonstrate Christ's love towards other people. By A) not judging them, and B) treating them as you would like to be treated. :)

[TruthBringer]

That... Would be a personal insult. Even if Jon was a blaspheming heretic, you just lowered yourself below him. Please try to demonstrate Christ's love towards other people. By A) not judging them, and B) treating them as you would like to be treated. :)

I used to listen to System of a Down before God pulled me from the sin that I had nearly allowed to swallow my life. I thought that I was a Christian, but I lived my life on a steady diet of occult games and blasphemous music. System of a Down has a very unique sound, and I really liked them - but their lyrics are spiritually poisonous. Their song, "Chop Suey," for instance, is a mockery of Christ's sacrifice. In 2 Corinthians 6:17, God's Word says, "Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you." It's not a suggestion, it's a commandment. No Christian has any good excuse to be listening to bands that make such a declaration of "unfaith."

It seriously disturbs me that anyone who blatantly supports such a band would log into a Christian music forum and insult ANY band, much less one with a testimony as powerful as Day of Fire. And it disturbs me further that he would be defended for it.

My previous post was not a personal insult; it was a rebuke.

"It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise, than for a man to hear the song of fools." - Ecclesiastes 7:5

Truth

[Mattlock]

First of all, I'm 100% sure that Jon's name has nothing to do with System Of A Down. Second of all, when I listen to a song that's blasphemeous, I say to myself "man, these guys don't know what they are talking about. I wish they knew...". Third of all, you're implying that the work of Christ is a competition by saying "Don't bash Day Of Fire because they are Christians". So becuase they are Christians, it's ok that they make crappy music? If they are representing Christ, I don't think they should be a knock off of some secular band who is ARTISTIC. Enjoy music because it's artistic, not Christian.

[jguitarfreak]

. Enjoy music because it's artistic, not Christian.

OK, so what you're saying is that it's ok to like music if its artistic, but if its artistic and blaphemous, (sp?) its still OK? Doesn't make sense to me at all buddy.

[Mattlock]

Some people have a hard time with blasphemeous music. As stated above, when I listen to blasphemeous music, I think of how unlucky these people are because they don't have a relationship with Christ. It makes me want to help those people. If you choose to not listen to that type of music because it might make you stumble, then don't listen to it. But blasphemeous music doesn't make me stumble...

[dickson amps]

Ok back to the subject..............

Day of Fire just recently played our venue (CafeJAM www.cafejam.com ) The show was definately not bland. They are a great group of guys. Josh's (lead singer) testimony is incredible, and very encouraging. I see over 200 performances of Christian groups a year (national, regional, local, even worldwide) and Day of Fire is among those who are really dedicated to seeking and following God's will in their lives, not just trying to be 'rock stars'.
The show was great. They had not played a set more than about 30 min. while on the Third Day/Toby Mac tour, so they had a blast playing a full set. As a band, they have only been together with this lineup about 2 months now (if even that). Knowing Josh's background, I would not say that he is copying any secular band. Listen to his testimony and you will see he has no need to copy music or to try and sound like anyone else.

So don't just simply dismiss a band because the first thing you hear isn't to you liking.

Berry

[jguitarfreak]

Hey I just bought their CD today. Pretty good stuff. Yes it is hard rock so it can tend to sound the same but their lyrics are fresh, musicians are good and it is produced very well. You usually don't find many good producers in CCM anymore so thats refreshing.

[DayofFirefan31]

GO to DAYOFFIRE.com. They are an awesome band you'll like them.

[Sean]

You said:

How thoughtful of you to insult a band you cannot remember from a CD that was not even out at the time you made your comment. I guess no one should expect any better from someone whose user name is a tribute to a secular band whose music includes blasphemous lyrics (System of a Down).

"If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain." - James 1:26

Truth
My previous post was not a personal insult; it was a rebuke.

"It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise, than for a man to hear the song of fools." - Ecclesiastes 7:5
You owe Jon an apology right now. Jon stating his opinion about a band isn't "rebuke" worthy. Jon's taste in music isn't a moral issue. You rebuke someone for a moral violation. Jon thinking a band was "bland" doesn't constiute a moral violation or really even an insult to the band. Its Jon's opinion and he can express it.

What you said to Jon was completely inappropriate. You don't know Jon. You don't know what Jon listens to. And you don't have the right to make statements like "I guess no one should expect any better from someone..." when you know nothing about Jon. However, being that you are quoting scripture and riding the moral high ground we can and should expect better behavior from you. You owe him an apology.

BTW, I doubt that Jon actually listens to much System of a Down. I'm pretty sure he just thought it was a cool sounding now.

[Sean]

I used to listen to System of a Down before God pulled me from the sin that I had nearly allowed to swallow my life. I thought that I was a Christian, but I lived my life on a steady diet of occult games and blasphemous music. System of a Down has a very unique sound, and I really liked them - but their lyrics are spiritually poisonous. Their song, "Chop Suey," for instance, is a mockery of Christ's sacrifice. In 2 Corinthians 6:17, God's Word says, "Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you." It's not a suggestion, it's a commandment. No Christian has any good excuse to be listening to bands that make such a declaration of "unfaith."
Can you hold that standards consistently? Do you watch TV, go to the movies, read secular books, hang out with secular people......

I'm not certain that your hardline view on what Christians can and can't do falls in line with Romans 14 teachings.

It seriously disturbs me that anyone who blatantly supports such a band would log into a Christian music forum and insult ANY band, much less one with a testimony as powerful as Day of Fire. And it disturbs me further that he would be defended for it.

No one has defended Jon's opinion (though he of course has the right to say it). We've rebuked you for your un-Christlike behavior. Jon's opinion of Day of Fire isn't a moral issue, PERIOD. It isn't wrong to dislike something. What he said was a negative critisim, not a personal insult. Theres nothing wrong with being critical. You have made personal attacks towards Jon based purely on your understanding of his name (and you're probably WRONG about it). Therefore you have sinned against Jon and need to apologize.

[BillSPrestonEsq]

You said:



How thoughtful of you to insult a band you cannot remember from a CD that was not even out at the time you made your comment. I guess no one should expect any better from someone whose user name is a tribute to a secular band whose music includes blasphemous lyrics (System of a Down).

"If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain." - James 1:26

Truth

First of all Jon does not like system of a down. (at least he didnt when his name was changed to systemofajon) it is just intended to be funny. I believe someone else called him that and it stuck.

You sir are being rude, without a clue what you are talking about. You call yourself bringer of truth while you defame with patent lies. That is the height of hypocrisy.

I don't like a lot of music... In fact to give you an example, I thought switchfoot was painfully bland from the start. My opinion on the quality and artistic merits of a band are not an objective issue.

Jon did nothing wrong. You did. As an SMod I am urging you to ammend your errant ways.

[Jeffrey]

So don't just simply dismiss a band because the first thing you hear isn't to you liking.

I don't think Jon was dismissing them. He just what he heard was bland.

[texandawg1288]

Some people have a hard time with blasphemeous music. As stated above, when I listen to blasphemeous music, I think of how unlucky these people are because they don't have a relationship with Christ. It makes me want to help those people. If you choose to not listen to that type of music because it might make you stumble, then don't listen to it. But blasphemeous music doesn't make me stumble...
If the music is blasphemeous towards God then from my views it would be wrong to listen to it. God is supposed to be your closest friend, so say if somebody wrote a blasphemeous song towards one of your closest friends say your girlfriend, would you still listen to it? Even if it doesn't make you stumble, I don't think God takes delight in you listening to it.

[Becky]

well... I listend to clips of their music... and I'm sorry to say.. there is nothing unique about them. There message is the same message, there music isn't even hearth rentching. There is nothing about there music that attracts me to them. nothing to make me say "WOW, THESE GUYS ARE AWESOME!".. Nothing about his bio that made me think that either... and I couldn't hear anything on the quicktime vidio.

[Jeffrey]

If the music is blasphemeous towards God then from my views it would be wrong to listen to it. God is supposed to be your closest friend, so say if somebody wrote a blasphemeous song towards one of your closest friends say your girlfriend, would you still listen to it? Even if it doesn't make you stumble, I don't think God takes delight in you listening to it.

This seems like a fairly developed opinion, but I am asking with no harshness...what's your Scripture for it? I'm not saying there's not Scripture for it (I can think of some relevant verses myself), but I think we here at CGR need to get in a habit of always offering the Scripture on which we base our convictions over spiritual matters. If we don't have Scripture, then our opinion, no matter how "close" to wrong or right it is, is still not rooted in God's Truth.

[texandawg1288]

This seems like a fairly developed opinion, but I am asking with no harshness...what's your Scripture for it? I'm not saying there's not Scripture for it (I can think of some relevant verses myself), but I think we here at CGR need to get in a habit of always offering the Scripture on which we base our convictions over spiritual matters. If we don't have Scripture, then our opinion, no matter how "close" to wrong or right it is, is still not rooted in God's Truth.
No there is not scripture for it, that I know of, more of a love and respect for my God. Some things aren't gonna be in the Bible because times are different. But I may be wrong, I just don't see God smiling up in heaven if he saw me listening to that kind of music. And I don't mean anything against you Jeffrey, thanks for bringing up the scripture. :)

[BillSPrestonEsq]

No there is not scripture for it, that I know of, more of a love and respect for my God. Some things aren't gonna be in the Bible because times are different. But I may be wrong, I just don't see God smiling up in heaven if he saw me listening to that kind of music. And I don't mean anything against you Jeffrey, thanks for bringing up the scripture. :)


personally, I can think of psalms which speak of those who blaspheme God's name, or even James' description of the rich which would preclude enjoymeant of blasphemous music.

I think this argument could be used against any music which blasphemes the name of our creator. I dp not think it is wrong to listen to it however. I listened to some blasphemous music fairly recently to analyze it for the sources of hostility toward Christianity in culture fairly recently. It was not an action designed to be enjoyable, but at the same time, it was insightful.

[Jeffrey]

No there is not scripture for it, that I know of, more of a love and respect for my God. Some things aren't gonna be in the Bible because times are different. But I may be wrong, I just don't see God smiling up in heaven if he saw me listening to that kind of music. And I don't mean anything against you Jeffrey, thanks for bringing up the scripture. :)

Well that's trouble, because there is plenty of Scripture related to the holiness of God's name, reverence for Him, representing Him to the world, honoring Him, etc. I'm sure you could easily find a Scriptural basis for your conviction. But what worries me is that your conviction should have come from that in the first place.

[Becky]

hms.. You really should prepare a thread on this for when the theology forum opens up :)

[texandawg1288]

Well that's trouble, because there is plenty of Scripture related to the holiness of God's name, reverence for Him, representing Him to the world, honoring Him, etc. I'm sure you could easily find a Scriptural basis for your conviction. But what worries me is that your conviction should have come from that in the first place.
Yes I know there are scriptures that concern keeping reverence for God, but I don't think there is a exact scripture that says what skilletswitch is wrong. There may be, I just don't read the bible enough as it is.

[DKelly]

You said:



How thoughtful of you to insult a band you cannot remember from a CD that was not even out at the time you made your comment. I guess no one should expect any better from someone whose user name is a tribute to a secular band whose music includes blasphemous lyrics (System of a Down).

"If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain." - James 1:26

Truth






Hey, that is not very nice. You don't even know him. Come to think of it, neither do I, but don't ever judge someone based on their username. He may have just picked it because he liked how it sounded.

[JoelStiles]

I don't think Jon was dismissing them. He just what he heard was bland.

I felt the same way from the three songs I've heard by them, so I guess I am going to Hell now. Please pray for me.

P.S. Yeah, I think Truthbringer was out of line. He has no moral basis to attack Jon personally for thinking Day of Fire is bland from what he heard - which I feel the same way [and I seen a reviews given them a 3, 3.5 out of 5 average and referring to them as not distinct].

There's no "Thou shalt not say that music is bland or lie about it" commandment.

Moreover, even if Jon likes System of a Down, does not give Truthbringer a basis to attack Jon's character overall . . . unless of course Truthbringer is PERFECT, never ever liking, mentioning, buying, etc. secular entertainment and products. Something Sean did well to point out and question where Truthbringer gets the authority to point to the "speck" in Jon's eye.

Truthbringer, YOU OWE JON AN APOLOGY and you should print out this thread and bring it to a spiritual elder and go over it with him and see what they say of your points AND how you acted on them.

[SystemOfAJon]

How thoughtful of you to insult a band you cannot remember from a CD that was not even out at the time you made your comment. I guess no one should expect any better from someone whose user name is a tribute to a secular band whose music includes blasphemous lyrics (System of a Down).

"If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain." - James 1:26

Truth
This is a pretty funny post. Someone should have told me about this post a long time ago.

~Jon

[DKelly]

I've heard they are a mix of 12 Stones and Pillar...
If so they are either Creed with a rapper or Limp Bizkit with a singer.


Honestly, this doesn't sound like either of the stuff you mentioned. To me, it sounds a lot like Fuel.

[HolyRockJfreak]

Honestly, this doesn't sound like either of the stuff you mentioned. To me, it sounds a lot like Fuel.
Dkelly is right, they are more like a mix of Kutless, Seventh Day Slumber, and Jonah33

[Hopeful]

Sorry to revive this old thread, but I just saw them at Creation West. They are a very good band and exciting live. They impressed me enough for me to get their CD and even stand in line to talk to them. They were my sleeper group at the four day festival. If you haven't seen them live, you might be surprised. I know I was.