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guitarmonky55
05-04-2003, 06:01 PM
if u go to the official dc talk website it says they went seperate ways because kevin max had personal problems, does that mean they broke up for good? cuz they were soo awesome i want them to come back, because, no offense, existence(kevin max) is good and all but hes not that great alone, and toby mac and tait are alright but they were better together.......so any ideas what happened to them?

FIForever
05-05-2003, 09:26 AM
um, no offense but Kevin Max is the best of the three. He and Tait can stand alone, but I was somewhat dissappointed with Toby's album. They aren't broken up, but on hiatus...they have one more album to do under contract and Kevin Max has said he would like to do another album as dc Talk. The new album is looking at a 2005 release date.

guitarmonky55
05-16-2003, 10:09 PM
i just thought the rest of kmax's cd was wierd.....i like existence tho(i named my band existence)

SystemOfAJon
05-18-2003, 12:40 PM
Umm....I just went to the dc talk website and found out that dc talk didn't take a break because of KMax's personal matters. If you read the article mentioning Kevin's personal matters at all, you'd noticee that it was talking about a tour that was going to happen in the fall of 2001, but was delayed to early 2002. Kevin needed the break, and they (dc talk) decided to delay the tour to help Kevin.

Anyways, dc talk is taking a break. They're doing solo stuff, nevermind which member of dc talk did better, they're doing solo albums, and the rumors (I don't think it's been confirmed by any members of dc talk) say after their second albums are released, they'll work on an album as a group. It'll probably be 2005 before the album would be released. Of course, that's a rumor, I think.

~Jon

The Seeker
08-02-2003, 12:32 PM
But, what'll Tait do?
I mean, he's started the Tait band...is he going to leave The Tait Band for DC Talk? ( I hope so, but it seems veird...well..)
Answers please to a desperate DC Talk fan!!
Btw, the single "Let's Roll" Is it on any CD? It's just on a single, right?

TS

SystemOfAJon
08-02-2003, 12:53 PM
But, what'll Tait do?
I mean, he's started the Tait band...is he going to leave The Tait Band for DC Talk? ( I hope so, but it seems veird...well..)
Answers please to a desperate DC Talk fan!!
Btw, the single "Let's Roll" Is it on any CD? It's just on a single, right?

TS

Tait? Uh, he's doing his solo thing, with a band.

Let's Roll is on the comp, Let's Roll: unity in something something something, I can't remember the whole title. So downloading the song is illegal kids.

~Jon

OneWithTheMud
08-02-2003, 01:07 PM
The whole title is Lets Roll: Together In Unity Faith And Hope. It's a good CD.

God's Jedi
08-06-2003, 10:50 PM
You can tell they're getting back together. The title of their last album was "Intermission." They'll be back, and hopefully better than ever.

souljahrar
08-31-2003, 04:23 AM
But, what'll Tait do?
I mean, he's started the Tait band...is he going to leave The Tait Band for DC Talk? ( I hope so, but it seems veird...well..)
Answers please to a desperate DC Talk fan!!


I know- that confused me too. Tait's gonna be in 2 bands at the same time????? :whoa:

SystemOfAJon
08-31-2003, 08:19 AM
Yeah. If one is very inactive, it's not that hard to do.

~Jon

sorefingers
09-03-2003, 12:46 PM
If you guys want news and info on dcTalk, you have to go to dctalksolo.com (http://www.dctalksolo.com) TobyMac said in a recent article in CCM magizine that dcTalk isn't gonna make a new album, until "I'm dying to" So, it might be another year or two at least.
um, no offense but Kevin Max is the best of the three. He and Tait can stand alone, but I was somewhat dissappointed with Toby's album. They aren't broken up, but on hiatus...they have one more album to do under contract and Kevin Max has said he would like to do another album as dc Talk. The new album is looking at a 2005 release date.
Um, no offense, but K-Max's album was the worst of the three. That's not just my oppinion either, if you look at whose album sold the most, you will see that K-Max and Tait weren't on the charts compared to tobyMac. I have owned all three albums for two years, and tobyMac's is by far the best. As for the 2005 release date, I haven't heard anything to that effect, though that does seem like a reasonable estimate.
He and Tait can stand alone
Find me one good dcTalk song that wasn't written by toby. He has written all the good stuff for dcTalk, there is no way they could have succeeded with out him.

Grace & Peace
Luke

God's Jedi
09-04-2003, 01:18 AM
I agree, K max is the worst. All though I'm not a huge fan of any of the solo stuff. They better get back together, and fast.

SystemOfAJon
09-04-2003, 02:32 PM
Um....since when did we judge people on record sales and popularity? And by who wrote the hit songs for dctalk? In that case, how come Mark Heimmerman (sp?) isn't mentioned? Don't give Toby all the glory, because he doesn't deserve ALL the credit for writing some of their hit songs.

KMax's album is....amazing. He has huge vocal talent. Of course, the way he writes his lyrics is so much different from Michael and Toby. That, and his musical influences are unique. He has great tastes, it's just that the general public doesn't.

~Jon

mikeman4christ
08-10-2004, 09:09 AM
yea i share your like of them there great! i was disapointed when i thought they broke up but i saw tait in concert and he anouced that they just went there seperate ways to try something new. and also he sayed that they were still together and planning to further their on go together as a group.

Watermarked
09-03-2004, 01:41 PM
Hey, with a band, there's no telling who's best. It's hard to pick out individual contributions, because the members influence each other--if it's a good band, anyway. And this one is awesome, IMHO. :cool:

Yeah, God's Jedi, the title "Intermission" is hopefully a good sign. :yep:

And... I agree with SystemOfAJon about Mark Heimermann, he's listed on just about every song, but he stays out of the limelight. What's up with that guy? :confused:

~WM~

DreamChaser
09-03-2004, 04:29 PM
Um, no offense, but K-Max's album was the worst of the three. That's not just my oppinion either, if you look at whose album sold the most, you will see that K-Max and Tait weren't on the charts compared to tobyMac.


And of course, popular means great. I mean, just take a look at Avril Lavigne and Linkin Park! They both must be incredibly awesome, considering how many more CD's they sold than any of the DC Talk members. ;)

Sarcasm aside, I think Tait's first alblum was fantastic. His second alblum was absolutely pathetic. You know why? It's because Pete Stewart wasn't on the second alblum. He's the man, and he's the main reason why the first one was so wonderful. Tait's got a great voice, but he's really not much of a songwriter. I still like him though :D

SystemOfAJon
09-04-2004, 12:28 AM
And... I agree with SystemOfAJon about Mark Heimermann, he's listed on just about every song, but he stays out of the limelight. What's up with that guy? :confused:
I certainly don't have a problem with him "staying out of the limelight", though (wow....an opinion of mine that <i>hasn't</i> changed in a year!). dc talk originated at Liberty University. I understand how Mark wouldn't fit in as an actual member of the group. <i>However</i>, to say that Toby was the one who wrote all the hit songs, or that he wrote most of the songs, is incorrect. Mark was involved in writing many of the dc talk songs.

Sarcasm aside, I think Tait's first alblum was fantastic. His second alblum was absolutely pathetic. You know why? It's because Pete Stewart wasn't on the second alblum. He's the man, and he's the main reason why the first one was so wonderful. Tait's got a great voice, but he's really not much of a songwriter. I still like him though :D
Dude. You = awesome. Pete Stewart is the difference between <i>Empty</i> and <i>Lose This Life</i>. A majority of <i>Empty</i> was decent, yet <i>Lose This Life</i> just sucked. The first three songs were the best, and they sounded like CCM theme songs.

~Jon

Sean
09-04-2004, 01:26 AM
....yes I know this post was from a year ago

I know- that confused me too. Tait's gonna be in 2 bands at the same time????? :whoa:
What exactly is confusing about that? A whole lot of people are in more than one band. Further, Tait knew what he was doing when he formed Tait. He knew that at some point in time Tait would be put on hold so that DC Talk could get back together. How is this confusing in the least?

Watermarked
09-05-2004, 12:28 PM
I certainly don't have a problem with him "staying out of the limelight", though (wow....an opinion of mine that <i>hasn't</i> changed in a year!). dc talk originated at Liberty University. I understand how Mark wouldn't fit in as an actual member of the group. <i>However</i>, to say that Toby was the one who wrote all the hit songs, or that he wrote most of the songs, is incorrect. Mark was involved in writing many of the dc talk songs.

Well, whoever that guy is, may God bless him and keep him strong! It's absolutely amazing how God has used those guys to produce incredible music that glorifies him. :clap:

~WM~

texandawg1288
09-11-2004, 11:00 PM
I heard, though i dont know if its true or not, that kevin max is gay...i dont know if its true or to believe it or not, but just telling you what i heard

SystemOfAJon
09-12-2004, 06:29 AM
I heard, though i dont know if its true or not, that kevin max is gay...i dont know if its true or to believe it or not, but just telling you what i heard
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Source?

~Jon

texandawg1288
09-12-2004, 03:30 PM
ya i didnt believe it either at first, though ive seen some weird stuff from him and i dont really believe it now, but from my district youth director...

Mattlock
09-12-2004, 06:23 PM
K-Max gay? LOL!!! Toby and Mike said he had a girl-radar on his head, and was always lookin' for gals to hook up with. That is hilirious!

BradyMarlo
11-01-2004, 06:53 AM
K-Max gay? LOL!!! Toby and Mike said he had a girl-radar on his head, and was always lookin' for gals to hook up with. That is hilirious!

My stomach is now turning....is this really true? Or is it just a rumor...I hope he isn't though...I mean,what happened?!

coolguy4553
12-22-2004, 01:51 PM
System of a Jon said:

Dude. You = awesome. Pete Stewart is the difference between <i>Empty</i> and <i>Lose This Life</i>. A majority of <i>Empty</i> was decent, yet <i>Lose This Life</i> just sucked. The first three songs were the best, and they sounded like CCM theme songs.

~Jon[/QUOTE]


what are you talking about............tait is up for a grammy for "Lose this Life" CD.........its awsome...........i really dont see where u say it sucks at.......

Mattlock
12-22-2004, 01:57 PM
Empty was a great CD. Lose This Life, from what I've heard, sucks

Who cares if they're nominated for a grammy or not? The Ramones never got a Grammy, yet they were one of the greatest bands of the last few decades.

Nate
12-22-2004, 02:23 PM
I heard, though i dont know if its true or not, that kevin max is gay...i dont know if its true or to believe it or not, but just telling you what i heard

I suppose it's possible, but it's more than likely just a stereotype pinned on him because of the odd clothes he wears. He is married, by the way... to a woman even.

K-Max's first solo album is far better than anything either of the other two members of DC Talk have put out on their own, and better than a lot of the stuff that DC Talk put out as a group. Anyone who says otherwise is stupid. :yep:

In His love,
Nate

Sean
12-22-2004, 02:36 PM
I suppose it's possible, but it's more than likely just a stereotype pinned on him because of the odd clothes he wears. He is married, by the way... to a woman even.
Actually he's divorced now.

twin2006
12-22-2004, 02:46 PM
um has anyone heard of the tour toby and mike are doing together

Nate
12-22-2004, 02:49 PM
Actually he's divorced now.

Wow. Hadn't heard that. That sucks. Perhaps that's why his "Between The Fence And The Universe" was nowhere near as good as "Stereotype Be". His wife seemed to give him inspiration or something.

In His love,
Nate

texandawg1288
12-22-2004, 05:25 PM
Ya I don't think him being gay is true, just think my DYD was mistaken or something. But you never know.

E-Dogg777
01-10-2005, 12:22 PM
well all gayness aside, I saw Tait at Winterfest at Liberty on New Year's Eve and he was doing alot of Dc Talk stuff....maybe he was trying to get us all excited about the music so that they can get back together soon....just a theory....I think this is all a conspiracy... :o

SuperMonkey
01-10-2005, 02:57 PM
Nate, BTFATU is just a demo for his next full length album (due somethine round May I think... uhhh not too sure, but yeah) Anyways my 2 cents on the whole thing is:

Toby - My persol least favorate, but I like his 2nd album the most. that dang ill-m-i song is still in my head moths later.

Tait - He was my fav when the band went their solo ways but his 2nd album is (im my opinion) much worse than his first. too bad pete had to leave.

KMax - I disliked his music the most, at first. But I started listening to his stuff again in the Summer last year and now I gotta say he's my favorite. Now im a huge fan of his.

And, no hes not gay. :)

SystemOfAJon
01-10-2005, 11:05 PM
Ya I don't think him being gay is true, just think my DYD was mistaken or something. But you never know.
What DVD?

And hey, you never know. I might be gay. You might be gay.

~Jon

E-Dogg777
01-11-2005, 08:20 AM
What DVD?
~Jon

He was saying his DYD....his District Youth Director....not a video....although I would like to see that video if that was the case... :o

SystemOfAJon
01-12-2005, 12:11 AM
He was saying his DYD....his District Youth Director....not a video....although I would like to see that video if that was the case... :o
Haha, oops. I read it wrong.

~Jon

texandawg1288
01-12-2005, 10:37 PM
What DVD?

And hey, you never know. I might be gay. You might be gay.

~Jon

Ha, yup I am happy, I hope your having a gay day too.


He was saying his DYD....his District Youth Director....not a video....although I would like to see that video if that was the case... :o Hehe Smart one, I wondered if anybody was gonna say anything about that...Haha, oops. I read it wrong.

~Jon Don't let it happen again :stare:

And on topic, I really enjoy Dc Talk, today my brother popped in one of their cds, I hope they get back together soon.

jesusfreak86ca
01-13-2005, 12:12 AM
no he's not gay and yes he is divorced. I had a chance to spend a week with him in europe. Great guy, he can be a bit of a flirt with younger ladies though. Probably part of the reason he ended up divorced.

thesteve
01-13-2005, 02:14 AM
ah kevin max...of course it sold the least units...it was the most experimental (in comparison to mainstream music).

The_Shadow
01-16-2005, 05:34 PM
I hope they get back together they were a great band although I do LOVE TobyMAcs new CD Welcome To DiverseCity!

The_Shadow
01-16-2005, 05:38 PM
My beliefs are (no offense or anything) that if you are a Christian you cannot be Gay I believe it is wrong and I dont believe Michael Tait is Gay :nope:

SystemOfAJon
01-16-2005, 11:16 PM
My beliefs are (no offense or anything) that if you are a Christian you cannot be Gay I believe it is wrong and I dont believe Michael Tait is Gay :nope:
......and now we're talking about rumors of Tait being gay?

Man, it must suck being popular.

~Jon

E-Dogg777
01-17-2005, 01:51 PM
I know that this isn't the place for theological discussions but we all sin in some form or fashion...does it make it alright to be gay....no, but I do believe that sin is sin and the Bible does say that Christ died for all sinners.

Also, the discussions weren't about Tait being gay, they were about a rumor of K-Max being gay. I don't believe he's gay...he's just weird....that's all. :yep:

ImOnFire
01-17-2005, 02:08 PM
Wow, this thread is being drawn out over a few years..I saw ,way back there, that you said that they orginated at Liberty University, SystemOfAJon. Thats awesome, I had no clue they started there! Ive been there about 2 or 3 times, stayed for a week. And been to alot of Liberty University sponsored events, it a great college.

Where exactly is the article about them taking a break? And how long have they been on the break? It seems like forever, but It is probally scince 2000 or 2001.

Mattlock
01-17-2005, 05:51 PM
My beliefs are (no offense or anything) that if you are a Christian you cannot be Gay I believe it is wrong and I dont believe Michael Tait is Gay :nope:
Kinda like you can't be a liar and be a Christian? I'm not a Christian then? Darn it, I read the bible wrong. I thought it said you were a Christian if you professed faith in Jesus Christ, not if you were sinless. Well, I hope hell's a nice place...

Mattlock
01-17-2005, 05:52 PM
Wow, this thread is being drawn out over a few years..I saw ,way back there, that you said that they orginated at Liberty University, SystemOfAJon. Thats awesome, I had no clue they started there! Ive been there about 2 or 3 times, stayed for a week. And been to alot of Liberty University sponsored events, it a great college.

Where exactly is the article about them taking a break? And how long have they been on the break? It seems like forever, but It is probally scince 2000 or 2001.
Actually, reading K-Max's book, I think I remember him saying it was a crappy college...

Not only from him, though, I've heard it sucks.

ImOnFire
01-17-2005, 08:32 PM
Actually, reading K-Max's book, I think I remember him saying it was a crappy college...

Not only from him, though, I've heard it sucks.
Nice dorms and campus though, thats awesome. But the food is...blah. But the campus is so huge and you have to walk everywhere. They have a 12:00 cerfew, and the police enforce it...I was out late eating pizza with Elvis Presleys step brother (Yes, the real Elvis Presley, and his real brother Rick Stanley...tis another story I might continue in my blog)

Anyway...to add to the dicussion. I have never seen Kmax in concert, But I have seen Tait and TobyMac, a enormous ammount of times. I have never even seen a concert of his promoted or advertised..why is this?

SystemOfAJon
01-17-2005, 11:59 PM
Also, the discussions weren't about Tait being gay, they were about a rumor of K-Max being gay. I don't believe he's gay...he's just weird....that's all. :yep:
Then somebody said something about Tait not being gay.

Kevin Max, weird? Please explain. This is one of my pet peeves, and most people have absolutely no idea what they're talking about....They just like Toby's album more.

Actually, reading K-Max's book, I think I remember him saying it was a crappy college...
Hm, where? I can see him not liking it at all, but I don't remember him saying it in the book (that I own).

I have never even seen a concert of his promoted or advertised..why is this?
Money.

I saw him perform twice in 2003....and it was great. I have some pictures of one of the shows. I might scan them sometime soon.

~Jon

Mattlock
02-07-2005, 07:19 PM
Hm, where? I can see him not liking it at all, but I don't remember him saying it in the book (that I own).
He never came out and said "I hated Liberty University", but he sort of implied it. I'll look at it again...

texandawg1288
02-07-2005, 09:06 PM
Kevin Max, weird? Please explain. This is one of my pet peeves, and most people have absolutely no idea what they're talking about...
~Jon

Kevin is a little weird, for example, his music video.

crosseyed04
03-15-2005, 09:40 AM
if u go to the official dc talk website it says they went seperate ways because kevin max had personal problems, does that mean they broke up for good? cuz they were soo awesome i want them to come back, because, no offense, existence(kevin max) is good and all but hes not that great alone, and toby mac and tait are alright but they were better together.......so any ideas what happened to them?

Yep they were better together. I think Toby Mac is makin it alright but i don't like him on his own (mainly b/c i don't like rap) and Tait doesn't seem to be hittin it off real big.

guitar man4
03-15-2005, 11:19 AM
I don't think it would be that big of a deal if tait broke up... :( They are on there third guitarist and second bassist right now.

As for tobyMac, I think a lot of people would be disapointed if he went back to dc talk because I know a lot of people like him.

As for Kevin Max.. honestly, I have never heard any of his stuff. :confused:

Personally, I love tait. I think lose this life and empty are both exellent albums, lose this life being one of my favrite albums ever. While I don't really like rap (and most of tobyMacs stuff) I would have to say that when I saw him at winter jam a month ago he really rocked :hair: ...speaking of winterjam, tait and tobyMac did Jesus freak and In the light together. Maybe they are trying to get people excited about dc talk.
At this point, its anyone's guess as to what will happen to dc talk.

SupaNova
03-15-2005, 01:46 PM
I've never really liked much of Tait's music. From what I have heard, it sounds just about as generic and bland as a CCM band can possibly get.

While I admit that I have Tobymac's "Momentum", I don't really care for his "rap" music much either. There are a few songs I enjoy, but most of the lyrics just sound like Toby is trying too hard to sound like some kind of hardcore rapper. That could just be me though :stare:

Kevin's music, on the other hand, is really good in my opinion. And of course, it has also gone highly underrated compared to the other guys' solo material.

I'm not a big DC Talk fan (I only have "Intermission") but it will be interesting to see what their music will sound like, assuming they ever get back together.

SystemOfAJon
03-18-2005, 10:02 PM
Kevin is a little weird, for example, his music video.
What's so "weird" about that video? I know corruptchristianmusic.com didn't like it, but... :rolleyes:

I think I'm going to never post again on the "Kevin really is the best of the three" thing. It's hopeless.....but if Kevin gets a secular deal and becomes popular in that market, I bet everyone would be all over him. :rolleyes:

~Jon

Mattlock
03-28-2005, 11:46 AM
If I'm not mistaken, Kevin DID get a secular deal. Northern Records is secular, right?

Only Alive
03-28-2005, 11:50 AM
As for Kevin Max.. honestly, I have never heard any of his stuff. :confused:

Man, you're missing out then. His work is very individual sounding, and definitely worth a listen.

-Nick

ImOnFire
03-28-2005, 11:56 AM
Man, you're missing out then. His work is very individual sounding, and definitely worth a listen.

-Nick
Yes...but...it is hard to find..at least for me. I cant find his stuff anywhere.

Only Alive
03-28-2005, 12:07 PM
Yes...but...it is hard to find..at least for me. I cant find his stuff anywhere.

Really??!! I'm sure they had his CDs at the local Family Christian store.

-Nick

DKelly
03-28-2005, 03:36 PM
what are you talking about............tait is up for a grammy for "Lose this Life" CD.........its awsome...........i really dont see where u say it sucks at.......


I honestly don't like Lose This Life either. Empty was way better. However, I think Lose This Life is more Christian radio-friendly because they mention Jesus more. Doesn't mean that it is better musically, because it isn't. But I do think Pete Stewart was better than their new guitarist.

ImOnFire
03-28-2005, 03:49 PM
Really??!! I'm sure they had his CDs at the local Family Christian store.

-Nick
Lol...actually I have no local Family Christian bookstore. But when I went looking for his CD, I couldnt find it....I have only seen it online.

SystemOfAJon
03-28-2005, 08:19 PM
If I'm not mistaken, Kevin DID get a secular deal. Northern Records is secular, right?
No, it's a indie Christian label.

~Jon

guitarfreak217
03-28-2005, 09:12 PM
Wow, this thread has survived two years. I agree with everyone that like's Kevin's music more than Tait's or Toby's. Personally, I think that Kevin Max is much better as an indie artist than as someone signed to a big record label like Forefront. It also seems like he's a bit too much for the whole world of CCM. CCM doesn't seem to enjoy creative and original music. They like it to all sound the same and don't care if it sucks. The only reason why they get signed and a get a lot of radio play is because they say constantly talk about Jesus in a shallow(from my observations atleast) manner. I have yet to find a CCM artist or band that has actually made me think.

fallinguprawks
09-27-2005, 06:11 PM
i just thought the rest of kmax's cd was wierd.....i like existence tho(i named my band existence)
I like Kevin Max's writing, although all I have heard so far is Stereotype Be. He has a distinctive almost middle-eastern feel to his music. Actually, I probably wouldn't like it, but Kevin sings. He has such a good voice, it totally makes up for any lack of writing ability he displays. Micheal Tait has an average black person voice (that sounds racist, but it isn't), but he is an extrordinary writer. In all of his songs I've heard, I really like his hard rock feel. I don't really like Toby Mac's stuff because I'm not into rap, but I still think he has great writing ability. I would like him, but he seems kind of full of himself (he has to say his name in every song :rolleyes: ) and I seriously think he strugles with drugs, which may be some of the reasons DC Talk broke up.

SystemOfAJon
09-28-2005, 12:04 AM
I don't really like Toby Mac's stuff because I'm not into rap, but I still think he has great writing ability. I would like him, but he seems kind of full of himself (he has to say his name in every song :rolleyes: ) and I seriously think he strugles with drugs, which may be some of the reasons DC Talk broke up.
.....where do I start? :rolleyes:

~Jon

DKelly
09-28-2005, 05:36 PM
I seriously think he strugles with drugs, which may be some of the reasons DC Talk broke up.



What makes you think that? I don't think anything like that is goin' on with him.

souljahrar
09-28-2005, 08:50 PM
I agree with everyone that like's Kevin's music more than Tait's or Toby's. Everyone? really... I've only heard the exact opposite... hmm...

Inked in Blood
09-28-2005, 11:49 PM
Everyone? really... I've only heard the exact opposite... hmm...

He was talking about everyone who like Kevin's music more then the rest of them not everyone in general.

fallinguprawks
09-28-2005, 11:51 PM
What makes you think that? I don't think anything like that is goin' on with him.
Ok, I don't want to offend anyone, and it may not be true, but in his music, it always sounds like he is using drug reference, and constantly looks high.

DKelly
09-29-2005, 12:11 AM
Ok, I don't want to offend anyone, and it may not be true, but in his music, it always sounds like he is using drug reference, and constantly looks high.



Maybe it's just the way he sounds, as it doesn't seem likely that he is on drugs.

fallinguprawks
09-29-2005, 12:12 AM
You may be right, but bear in mind that, just because he's Toby Mac, he is still as vulnerable as you or I to these things.

DKelly
09-29-2005, 12:16 AM
You may be right, but bear in mind that, just because he's Toby Mac, he is still as vulnerable as you or I to these things.



I know it's a slight possibility. I was just saying that I didn't find it likely.

SystemOfAJon
09-29-2005, 03:20 PM
Ok, I don't want to offend anyone, and it may not be true, but in his music, it always sounds like he is using drug reference, and constantly looks high.
Aaaah, yes. Do you have any more objective things to say against the poor guy?

You may be right, but bear in mind that, just because he's Toby Mac, he is still as vulnerable as you or I to these things.
Yes, but I don't read about him going around spreading asinine gossip based on ridiculous things about others.

~Jon

Godslilrosebud
09-29-2005, 04:03 PM
DCtalk includes Toby Mac?!?!? Uff da....

DKelly
09-29-2005, 04:08 PM
DCtalk includes Toby Mac?!?!? Uff da....



You didn't know that? :o

Art
09-29-2005, 09:24 PM
DCtalk includes Toby Mac?!?!? Uff da....
Toby Mac. And the Mac is back. No slack. On a DC track that's jacked. :(

Godslilrosebud
09-30-2005, 08:15 AM
You didn't know that? :o
I had no clue...That explains why there are only three DCtalk songs that I like. (I don't like Toby Mac. Ugh.)

thesteve
09-30-2005, 10:18 AM
I had no clue...That explains why there are only three DCtalk songs that I like. (I don't like Toby Mac. Ugh.)considering that dcTalk and Toby Mac sound completely different, i'm really kinda baffled at the connection.

Godslilrosebud
09-30-2005, 02:38 PM
The conection could come from the fact that:
A) I'm not allowed to listen to dcTalk and therefore have only heard four of their songs, and
B) I'm not allowed to listen to Toby Mac and have only heard ONE of his songs.

I'm being made fun of by the girls at AWANA for not liking certain bands or never having heard them. I say that if they want to convert me, they had better loan me the CDs.

Mattlock
09-30-2005, 03:31 PM
You're not allowed to listen to dc talk? I thought I had conservative parents...

(Please don't take offense to this post. I was merely joking. :))

Godslilrosebud
09-30-2005, 03:38 PM
Well, my mom wouldn't have too much of a problem with it, it's my dad. He doesn't like Newsboys, Jars of Clay, Third Day....

thesteve
09-30-2005, 05:09 PM
weird about the dcTalk, but it makes sense now...but cool that you go to AWANA...i'm a former AWANA kid (and Citation winner) turned game director.

dcunning30
09-30-2005, 05:28 PM
Well, my mom wouldn't have too much of a problem with it, it's my dad. He doesn't like Newsboys, Jars of Clay, Third Day....

Wow, that's amazing. What's your dad want you to listen to Gather Vocal Band? But anyway, as hard as it may seem, you still gotta respect your parent's authority. Maybe you could get your mom to advocate for you to your dad.

HolyRockJfreak
10-01-2005, 08:53 AM
Wow, that's amazing. What's your dad want you to listen to Gather Vocal Band? But anyway, as hard as it may seem, you still gotta respect your parent's authority. Maybe you could get your mom to advocate for you to your dad.
Yeah I would definitely try that it would totally be worth the try or even just have your parents check out DC talk's lyrics at www.christianrocklyrics.com

HolyRockJfreak
10-01-2005, 09:06 AM
Back to the orginal topic, If you guys have ever read any reviews on Toby Mac, Toby Mac has said that they will not be making another DC Talk album unless they are dying to.

I would personally love for DC Talk to come back and make another album and go on a "reunion tour".

But I think it could be challenging for DC Talk to come up with new material to meet the expectations of their fans, because if they came back everyone would expect another "Jesus Freak" album.

Honestly I think they could, but it would be alot of pressure on them.

Even if DC Talk never makes another song, I won't be disappointed, because look at their impact on Christian music. They really took it up another notch.

Before DC Talk there was Stryper and Petra and Guardian but Stryper stopped in about 93 and Petra started to fade right after 94 and 95, and Guardian switched to a more alternative style in 94 and 95, and DC Talk came at the perfect time and made an awesome album. Remember DC Talk was also the first real sucessful Christian rap group.

And if DC Talk comes back I think they will come back at the right time, but right now look at all the other popular Christian bands out there Switchfoot, P.O.D., Anberlin, 12 Stones, Lifehouse, etc. and I think Toby Mac is doing great with his funky rap/rock, and if anything right now Christian rap needs to be taken up another level.

That is my opinion, don't get me wrong I think it would be awesome for DC Talk to come out with another album, but I think if they come back it will be at the right time.

DKelly
10-01-2005, 10:07 AM
Even if DC Talk never makes another song, I won't be disappointed, because look at their impact on Christian music. They really took it up another notch.



I agree; they have made a huge impact. I can't think of many other Christian bands in the '90s that made a bigger impact than they did.

thesteve
10-01-2005, 10:13 AM
I agree; they have made a huge impact. I can't think of many other Christian bands in the '90s that made a bigger impact than they did.The Newsboys, Audio A or Jars of Clay might come close...

DKelly
10-01-2005, 10:25 AM
The Newsboys, Audio A or Jars of Clay might come close...



Yeah, I forgot about them. But I think that DC Talk's Jesus Freak was one of the most important releases of the '90s.

Godslilrosebud
10-01-2005, 10:26 AM
weird about the dcTalk, but it makes sense now...but cool that you go to AWANA...i'm a former AWANA kid (and Citation winner) turned game director.
Cool! I'm aiming for the Citation, too! (I should start a thread...Hmm....)
Wow, that's amazing. What's your dad want you to listen to Gather Vocal Band? But anyway, as hard as it may seem, you still gotta respect your parent's authority. Maybe you could get your mom to advocate for you to your dad.
My dad loves Southern Gospel Music and the Gaither Vocal Band. Me? I really couldn't care less!

SystemOfAJon
10-01-2005, 01:37 PM
Get back on topic, guys.

Edit: Hah! I'm not a mod here anymore. Oops.

~Jon

Godslilrosebud
10-01-2005, 02:02 PM
We are on topic. I shall start another thread.

HolyRockJfreak
10-01-2005, 06:01 PM
Yeah, I forgot about them. But I think that DC Talk's Jesus Freak was one of the most important releases of the '90s.
I agree, it was probably the most influencial.

HolyRockJfreak
10-02-2005, 06:56 AM
Here's some DC Talk news, about a week ago, the solo members of DC Talk shared the same stage for the first time in 3 years and after they were done, the crowd chanted "Jesus Freak" and all three members came out and played "In the Light" and "Jesus Freak" for more info go to http://jesusfreakhideout.com/news/default.asp

powerchordguy
03-09-2006, 08:57 PM
Here's some DC Talk news, about a week ago, the solo members of DC Talk shared the same stage for the first time in 3 years and after they were done, the crowd chanted "Jesus Freak" and all three members came out and played "In the Light" and "Jesus Freak" for more info go to http://jesusfreakhideout.com/news/default.asp

wow! that would be awesome to see. i saw just tait in concert and he did those two songs as well.

SystemOfAJon
03-09-2006, 10:06 PM
Okay, seriously. dc talk hasn't released a new album since <em>nineteen freaking ninety-eight</em>. Since it is now 2006, that means they haven't made a new album together in nearly <em>eight years</em>. The next person to say "dc talk needs to make a new album" will be shot by an angry mob of people.

At the same time, I'm secretly holding out hope for another album like <em>Supernatural</em> (which had some solid pop songs on it, and weren't like "Jesus Freak"). But the gods have frowned on that idea.

~Jon

funkStrat_97
04-23-2006, 08:08 PM
"Micheal Tait has an average black person voice"

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

fallinguprawks
04-23-2006, 08:41 PM
Okay, seriously. dc talk hasn't released a new album since <em>nineteen freaking ninety-eight</em>. Since it is now 2006, that means they haven't made a new album together in nearly <em>eight years</em>. The next person to say "dc talk needs to make a new album" will be shot by an angry mob of people.

At the same time, I'm secretly holding out hope for another album like <em>Supernatural</em> (which had some solid pop songs on it, and weren't like "Jesus Freak"). But the gods have frowned on that idea.

~Jon
No doubt. Those guys getting back together after so long would be absurd.
"Micheal Tait has an average black person voice"
I'd have to say he does have a pretty average black guy voice. He's an excellent writer, though. I'd still have to say Toby Mac was the best writer of the group, although he seems a little full of himself. If anyone wants to contradict that statement, please bear in mind the fact that he wrote a song in which the chorus repeated "Toby Mac" over and over. Kevin Max has a great voice.

SystemOfAJon
04-23-2006, 10:16 PM
I'd still have to say Toby Mac was the best writer of the group, although he seems a little full of himself.
Best writer? On what basis?

~Jon

fallinguprawks
04-23-2006, 11:27 PM
Personal preference and quantity. I like his lyrics better than that of the other members. Tait's lyrics are cliche, and Max's are pretty good, just confusing. I know the lyrics to all his songs from Steriotype Be, but I only understand the point he's trying to get across in a couple of the songs. On to the aspect of quantity. Mac has had more solo albums than the other two, I believe, and he wrote all of one album and did the majority of the writing on the rest for DC Talk. Mac has a terrible singing voice, though, which is why he needed the other two for most of the singing. He's a pretty good rapper and when he strains and yells it sounds better than most.

guitar man4
04-24-2006, 06:20 PM
Funny, I was going to start a thread about this but then I realized there already was one...
Just this past Saturday Newsong was scheduled to play a show in my town at the spring fair, but it got cancelled due to bad weather. I walked around the side of the stage and noticed Newsong's drummer packing up their stuff. Anyways, he saw me standing there and came over and talked to me...
I asked him about mid-conversation about the status of DC talk, and if they were going to get back together anytime soon...(He said he was friends with Tait's drummer, and Tait and Tobymac toured with Newsong on the Winterjam tour last year, so I figured he may know some stuff) He told me that on that winterjam tour there had been a good bit of talk about them getting back together, and that they actually recorded some new DC talk demos. But after the tour, they went their seperate ways.
Another interesting thing that he told me was that Tait was wanting to do an album under a secular label, which explains why Tait is no longer listed on the Forefront website...
The way he made it sound was that DC talk would unfortunately not be getting back together anytime soon. :(

SystemOfAJon
04-24-2006, 06:31 PM
Another interesting thing that he told me was that Tait was wanting to do an album under a secular label, which explains why Tait is no longer listed on the Forefront website...
That would be really interesting to see. Forefront sucks.

The way he made it sound was that DC talk would unfortunately not be getting back together anytime soon. :(
And, <em>a freaking decade later</em>...that is no suprise.

~Jon

jengoesup
04-24-2006, 06:48 PM
Tait going secular is going to be interesting http://www.christianguitar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=52936

thesteve
04-24-2006, 06:52 PM
Tait going secular is going to be interesting http://www.christianguitar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=52936
why? is it a bad thing?

jengoesup
04-24-2006, 07:12 PM
why? is it a bad thing?

Well not really, but like I said: it will be an interesting experience. Who knows what'll happen...will the rabid dogs of secular music eat him alive? ;) (COMPLETELY kidding here).

guitar man4
04-25-2006, 07:22 PM
He meant that they would still be a christian band, but just have a non-christian record label. It would expose their music to a wider audience.

Gsus_Rawks
05-26-2007, 12:06 AM
DC Talk is releasing something on 6/26/07

DKelly
05-26-2007, 12:14 AM
DC Talk is releasing something on 6/26/07


Where did you hear that? I didn't see anything on Wikipedia about that.

SystemOfAJon
05-26-2007, 12:38 AM
DC Talk is releasing something on 6/26/07
You mean Forefront Records is trying to milk the name of the group for every last penny.

~Jon

DKelly
05-26-2007, 01:58 AM
You mean Forefront Records is trying to milk the name of the group for every last penny.

~Jon


I heard something about how in August this year, they're going to release a "DC Talk; The Early Years", which is supposed to have either a bunch of stuff they made before their debut or a bunch of their B-sides from their early stuff.

Not interested.

Gsus_Rawks
08-30-2007, 11:49 PM
Where did you hear that? I didn't see anything on Wikipedia about that.

Well, it's out now, It has a funky cover. After seeing the track listing was almost the same as Intermission, I didn't buy it.