ink-ube-us

[zoe r]

I like them. And I think the lead guy weighs about four pounds.

[bleachedrhino]

I love incubus! Make yourself is one of my favorite cd's! :D
Incubus is soooooooooo kool! :D
And Brandon (the invisible floating torso man) is like skinnier than dudes in 7th grade! :D

[Scott]

in the wish you were here video, he looks like Jim Morrison in some of the shots.

Oh, and the name is pretty horrible. It means a demon who does some things I won't go into.

[zoe r]

yeah they're kinda off their rockers and they say bad words..:eek: kindof like my dad. *cough*

[Brent]

Interesting...I'd never bothered looking it up before.

Per dictionary.com :

in·cu·bus (nky-bs, ng-) n. pl. in·cu·bus·es or in·cu·bi (-b)

1. An evil spirit supposed to descend upon and have sexual intercourse with women as they sleep.
2. A nightmare.
3. An oppressive or nightmarish burden.

Ugh...let's hope that their definition of it was the 2nd or 3rd one and not the first.

Brent

[zoe r]

well they've just dropped a few rungs on my popularity ladder.

[Ali4God]

Originally posted by zoe renwick
well they've just dropped a few rungs on my popularity ladder.

Hahaha... I like that one, I may have to use that sometime :D I like that "Wish You Were Here" song, but I don't think I've heard anything else by them. But the whole 'rapist demon' thing has convinced me not to bother...:rolleyes:
*Alison*

[Scott]

they actually are amazing though, even if they are slightly dodgily named.

[ChrisPeeper]

You kids should check out Crosseyed 88...they are moving away from a punk sound from their demo and now sound kinda like Ink-ube-us. They are Christian and the lead singer/guitarist/song writer is one of my good friends from school. They may play at Alive next year. Any more questions PM me or comment in this thread.

[screaming_broccoli]

i have to say that even though their name means "rapist demons" that their music is actually pretty good. I have only heard Wish You Were Here and Drive. I think i might have heard another song too, i'm not sure. But Brandon does need to start putting some meat on those bones.


~screaming_broccoli~

[Jfreak]

Incubus is one of my favorite bands !!...I read somethng about the name but can't remeber what :-) o well..they still rock !

[matnus]

Originally posted by Brent
Interesting...I'd never bothered looking it up before.

Per dictionary.com :

in·cu·bus (nky-bs, ng-) n. pl. in·cu·bus·es or in·cu·bi (-b)

1. An evil spirit supposed to descend upon and have sexual intercourse with women as they sleep.
2. A nightmare.
3. An oppressive or nightmarish burden.

Ugh...let's hope that their definition of it was the 2nd or 3rd one and not the first.

Brent

i actually looked it up too, cos i thought it was the name of some Greek mythical character...

Matt

[Singin4Him82]

Originally posted by matnus


i actually looked it up too, cos i thought it was the name of some Greek mythical character...

Matt

Uh yeah for the very reason of what their name means I deleted all their songs off my computer...sick!:(

[Nathanael]

They're ok, but a little to pop-ish for my tastes.

[shineN]

yeah, they're name is the reason, I haven't bought any cds/downloaded any music....

[Travis]

Originally posted by Singin4Him82
Uh yeah for the very reason of what their name means I deleted all their songs off my computer...sick!:(

Originally posted by shineN
yeah, they're name is the reason, I haven't bought any cds/downloaded any music....


But there were two other possible definitions! You guys reject them because of a 1 in 3 chance that their name means something that you think is "sick"? Come on! There is no more reason to think it is definition one than two and three!

1. An evil spirit supposed to descend upon and have sexual intercourse with women as they sleep.
2. A nightmare.
3. An oppressive or nightmarish burden.

[Adam]

True, I was thinking about this the other day.

[Jfreak]

Originally posted by NathanB
They're ok, but a little to pop-ish for my tastes.


Pop-ish ?????
um...what part of the band is "pop-ish" ?

[shineN]

I read in an article... about incubus that said... don't remember correctly, but the only definition for the name was number 1, that's the only reason I looked it up in the dictionary...

[Scott]

could you rephrase that? for clarity's sake :)

[shineN]

yeah sorry, I have a hard time writing my thoughts down...

I read an article about Incubus and in the article they mentioned something about the name and what it ment, and the only definition they gave for the name was the No. 1 definition, that's why I looked it up in the dictionary, just to make sure...

hope that helps...

[Ely]

incubus has good music but they are a litte messed up in the head.

[stinkins]

Personally, I don't care what the name means...I don't pay attention anyway...

Musically, Incubus has got one of the best sounds out there right now. I listen to very little secular music and Incubus is one of the few bands that I actually listen to consistently (along with a lot of other rock stuff...311, Staind, etc.). Make Yourself, in my opinion, is one of the best CDs in history. Four or five singles that have gone Top 10 (Drive, Wish You Were Here, Pardon Me, Stellar)...WOW!

That and they are great live...

As for the lead singer/stick figure...

Jason

[Jael]

Everybody who is saying "I stop listening to them!..., I deleted them off my computer!..." Ya'll need to relax man. I don't care what their name means. Niether should you. Do they care? Probaly Not. Are they Rapist Demons? No. Did they choose that name because they want to be rapist Demons? No. Did they choose that name simply for shock Value? Yes. So relax, the tunes are great. And musically so are they. I'm listening to Make Yourself right now, they kick Bootay!

[Scott]

if you are cool with that sort of thing, then good for you. But some people arent, so they can do what they want, it's not a point to debate, it's a personal preference.

[timberwolf_s]

joel...
no one here has accused incubus of being rapsit demons, at least to my knowledge. and even if they did accuse them of that i wouldn't believe them. but god tells us to meditate on what is pure and right, and associating yourself with a rapist demon for "shock factor" is not a good indication that you are pure and right with god. sorry.

[Jael]

Ya'll like to argue alot eh? No big Deal man! I know my relationship with God, I know that Incubis does not affect me. If someone else can't handle it, then do what you need to do. But with everything use a balance of common sense.

[Scott]

thats what i was saying to you man, just drop it, live and let live. if you can handle it, well done etcetc, but some people don't want to take the risk. I for one like incubus and listen to them, but others don't so respect the way they safeguard their faith.

[Singin4Him82]

Originally posted by timberwolf_s
joel...
no one here has accused incubus of being rapsit demons, at least to my knowledge. and even if they did accuse them of that i wouldn't believe them. but god tells us to meditate on what is pure and right, and associating yourself with a rapist demon for "shock factor" is not a good indication that you are pure and right with god. sorry.

Amen to that!! That is exactly how I feel.

But Jael when you said:I know my relationship with God, I know that Incubis does not affect me. If someone else can't handle it, then do what you need to do. But with everything use a balance of common sense.

That is one of the biggest justifications we use, I've done it too but when it comes down to it if it doesn't glorify God then obviously He wouldn't approve of you listening to it. I used to have a huge problem with secular music I loved all those hardcore bands that were great but had horrible messages but then I realized how no matter how much i said it didn't effect me it did b/c that music can NEVER give you the same feeling that music glorifying God made by people who are in love with Him can.
Now before I listen to any type of music I ask myself "would He listen to this with me?" A lot of you are saying "who cares what the band's name is" Well dont you care that the people whos music you all love are lost and dont know Christ?

[Scott]

sorry, but the fact that they are not christian does not disqualify them from writing beautiful or stimulating music, writing some of my favourite books, making my favourite films.

[Singin4Him82]

I never said they dont make great stuff, but as far as secular bands go who aren't of Christ they are apart from Him and that goes against what God tells us. Be apart of the world but now OF the world. These guys dont make music to glorify Him so how can they be making "beautiful" music? Nothing has true beauty unless it's of Christ. I'm not trying to be argumentative but this is right out of scripture...so I can't exatly agree with you guys on this one.

[Scott]

things can be beautiful because they are devoted to Christ, but they can be beautiful in their own right, just not as beautiful. The sad thing about the Christian music industry is that it cannot even achieve the quality of music in most cases that the secular music industry can, dulling the point of having a christian music industry in the first place. I'm not saying that their shouldnt be one, I'm saying if they don't produce good music, their is hardly a point.

[Singin4Him82]

Actually I think that's a matter of opinion. Speaking as someone has been called to use music as my minsitry recording and stuff I feel that Christian music has a MUCH greater purpose than the "sound" it is a HUGE mission field where we can share Christ with the unsaved, searching, hurting etc etc. It's a great ministry and God works through it daily even if in your opinion they dont meet up to the secular music "sound".

[Adam]

Speaking as someone has been called to use music as my minsitry recording and stuff I feel that Christian music has a MUCH greater purpose than the "sound"

This is just simply untrue. Should we glorify God more in words than in music? No, we should glorify God equally in all areas of life. That means its overall purpose must glorify God, not just the lyrics or ministry. All things should be done to the glory of God, not just some.

[Singin4Him82]

Originally posted by The Philosopher


This is just simply untrue. Should we glorify God more in words than in music? No, we should glorify God equally in all areas of life. That means its overall purpose must glorify God, not just the lyrics or ministry. All things should be done to the glory of God, not just some.

Well wait just a second there, being a Christian singer in the ministry are you not glorifying God with every part of your life if you are seeking his will by being in the ministry He wants you in? I never said it is only by your lyrics in the song that you are a witness it is by you LIFE. I can tell you now most secular bands do not glorify God with their life and are not using their for ministry this was my point. I believe you misunderstood what i meant there.

[Jael]

Where did the Incubus board go? (he-he)

[TruthWarrior]

What philosopher is saying is that we should glorify God aestheticaly as well as spiritually. Actually our spirituality is supposed to spill over into our aesthetic pursuits.

Yes, you build a plane; but does it glorify God u ask? Well, that question can be kind of vague. U can go on to say "Are u glorifying God in nose-picking?" and get into the nonsense that Clement rambled about.

The very fact tthat we create AT ALL glorifies God. Pharoah brought glory to God involuntarily. Anything good comes from God; even though it might come out of the most distraught vessle.

well..lol...my point is summed up in that that our creating brings glory to God; and when music is beautiful it is because it lines up with the way God created our minds to appreciate aesthetics.

[Scott]

Precisely, our creations are all pale reflections of God's creation, I've said this on here before. The reason we are made with the desire to create is because man was created in God's image. This isnt purely a visual image, IMHO. We also have the same desires etc, although they have been corrupted and distorted by sin and the world.

[Singin4Him82]

Yes but sin is from satan just as anything agaisnt God's nature is. Just as I said only true beauty is from God and that can only shine through in ANYONE if you are in him. I do not see true beauty in any secular music like Inkubeus....how can beauty be in music where people throw out the F word every other sentence. So certainly NOT of Christ.

[Scott]

Sin isnt Satan's creation, as in something he made. Sin is Satan's corruption of God's perfection. Satan doesnt create, Satan corrupts. The only things that Satan has thus far transformed to complete evil are himself and his demons. Thus something good can be found in all of man's creation, if it be skillful guitar work, or good singing, or lyrics.

[Singin4Him82]

Sin is of satan period. I can't be of God right? Satan is called the angel of light so therefore things outside of God can SEEM beautiful but as I have stated over and over they can not be TRULY beautiful if they are not from Christ. My point above was simply that bands that have horrible lyrics and people who create these lyrics who are so far from God then how can anyone justify listening to them and also "be in the world but not OF the world"?

[TruthWarrior]

Originally posted by Singin4Him82
Yes but sin is from satan just as anything agaisnt God's nature is. Just as I said only true beauty is from God and that can only shine through in ANYONE if you are in him. I do not see true beauty in any secular music like Inkubeus....how can beauty be in music where people throw out the F word every other sentence. So certainly NOT of Christ.

u are right Delaina....excellent music doesn't justify the artists' sin or their awful lyrics.
Frederic Chopin was a adulterer and fornicator...but he wrote some of the most beautiful music ever. Duke Elliington was a musical genius; yet he was not exactly always exemplarary. Franz Liszt was as bad, if not worse than Chopin; but his music is still hailed as ingenious and brilliant by the classical world. What i'm saying is that these musicians' music is great, though they were not that themselves. aesthetically great, though their lives were/are quite different.
Incubus (as an example) perhaps has terrible lyrics, but their music can still be "clever" "brilliant" or even "superb". The music itself is innocent of all crimes. It is the lyrics and the writer of them that deserves blame. I'm not justifying the behavior of the artists; i'm just pointing out that the artist can make music with better character than himself.
Personally, i think that if an artist's lyrics are full of cursing and profanity, his music is defaulted. I won't bother to listen to his music if he's turning me off with his sin.
Thus, Christian music is more agreable; although not always aesthetically well done.

i think i've rambled a little bit so i'm going to sum up my points here:

1. Music is not evil in itself
2. The artist can make good music
3. The artist can also make bad lyrics
( Bad lyrics, in my opinion, cancels out the music because of its offensiveness)
4. Therefore the artist making good music doesn't obscure his sinful lyrics; but nor does his sinful lyrics taint (technically) his music.

I must make a not on the last point that an artist DOES taint his music, somewhat, with sinful lyrics because he does not glorify the God who gave him his abilities....am i making sense....?


an artist making good music is a testimony to God because his gift is of God;OTOH, an artist making awful lyrics reveals his depravity and wickedness.

[CanadianChick]

Well said, TruthWarrior! I completely agree.

[Singin4Him82]

Thanks for the explaination, I agree very much.

[TruthWarrior]

Originally posted by Singin4Him82
Thanks for the explaination, I agree very much.

ur welcome :D.....i had the same questions when i was younger; it took awhile...but i thought them out, by God's grace!

[TruthWarrior]

Originally posted by Singin4Him82
Thanks for the explaination, I agree very much.

ur welcome :D.....i had the same questions when i was younger; it took awhile...but i thought them out, by God's grace!


just tryin to do my job, folks ;) :cool:

[Singin4Him82]

Originally posted by TruthWarrior


i had the same questions when i was younger; it took awhile...but i thought them out, by God's grace!


just tryin to do my job, folks ;) :cool:

Hmm, not sure what you mean lol?? I was just saying thanks for explaining what YOU meant a little better b/c I did not understand it exactly. I already felt exactly what you stated just wasn't sure if that's what you were stating. :)

[TruthWarrior]

Originally posted by Singin4Him82


Hmm, not sure what you mean lol?? I was just saying thanks for explaining what YOU meant a little better b/c I did not understand it exactly. I already felt exactly what you stated just wasn't sure if that's what you were stating. :)

I meant that i was puzzled about the relationship of the musician and his music and so on when i was younger; i've reached my conclusion now.

as far as doing my job....i meant my nick.


lol....u just weren't sure what i was saying? ok. glad i clarified that truth!