As I Lay Dying-Shadows Are Security

[Inked in Blood]

Tracks
1. Meaning in Tragedy
2. Confined
3. Losing Sight
4. The Darkest Nights
5. Empty Hearts
6. Reflection
7. Repeating Yesteday
8. Through Struggle
9. The Truth of My Perception
10. Control is Dead
11. Morning Waits
12. Illusions

[DKelly]

A great metalcore CD. Jordan Mancino is one of the best drummers in hard Christian music right now.


I give it an 8

[living_for_Him]

A great metalcore CD. Jordan Mancino is one of the best drummers in hard Christian music right now.

I'd totally agree with you. Tim Lambesis is also a really great singer. I give this album 9 1/2.

[earlessdog]

this is the first cd i have ever given a 10. Because everything is perfect about it in my opinion. sure there are heavier bands out there, taht may hit more notes etc. but these guys know how to compose. In my opinion, one of, if not THE best, metalcore cd ever. Something about it makes me listen to it over and over, and i have had it for so long. Amazing cd.

[ice_wiz]

Solid CD from start to finish, I'm going to give this an eight.

[Adam K]

Solid CD from start to finish, I'm going to give this an eight.

Solid's right.

[Mr. claw]

Lots of double-bass, crazy guitar. But every song sounds the same. They're good...Underoath is better. 8.

[earlessdog]

Lots of double-bass, crazy guitar. But every song sounds the same. They're good...Underoath is better. 8.

what? there is nota single repititious song on that album

[thomaspg70]

I have this one. Great cd. It needs bass! I'll give it an 8.

[John Allison]

I've had this since March, but it has never been one of my favourite cds. I like it alot, especially songs like Meaning in tragedy, confined, darkest nights, etc. the intro of Through Struggle i love.
Despite this, as Mr. Claw said, it does get very repetitive (to me anyway). The same riffing style is used throughout the cd, and the guitar sounds don't vary greatly.
I gave it 8 - some amazing songs, and many gd songs, but not the kind of variety that makes a great cd.

[Adam K]

My favorite is Empty Hearts.

[guitarwannabe16]

Yea this cd gets repetitive really fast. But there are a few great standout out songs like Meaning in Tragedy, and Morning Waits. Confined though is pretty much the most generic metalcore song ever written.

[Gecko of Doom]

They're good...Underoath is better.Ridiculous. Maybe you like Underoath better, but As I Lay Dying is the more technically proficient band. And Underoath, in my opinion, is much worse as far as lack of variety goes. Honestly, if you want variety, why are you listening to hardcore/metalcore?

[earlessdog]

Ridiculous. Maybe you like Underoath better, but As I Lay Dying is the more technically proficient band. And Underoath, in my opinion, is much worse as far as lack of variety goes. Honestly, if you want variety, why are you listening to hardcore/metalcore?

agreed, you can't even compare the 2 bands, they don't even sound alike

i still don't see this cd as repative, i see it as completely original, the songs never sound the same, and whoever said Confined was the most generic metalcore song ever written, thats disgusting. Its just as original as the others on there.
And if you think its a repetative cd, then how come you isolate Confined as generic and the others not? If all the songs sound the same . . .
which they don't.

[guitarwannabe16]

I isolated it because its the most generic of them all. Everything on that CD has been done before better and faster by other better bands. Im an AILD fan, no doubt, and i like SAS, but in the scheme things im gonna face it, they're not THAT original.


and whoever said underoath was better doesnt know what he's talking about. The only thing i can think of that he was trying to compare was old death metal UO to AILD.

[Mr. claw]

My favorite is Empty Hearts.

Me too. If pizza were a song, it would be this song.

[skreamo syko]

Love it!! one of the best cd's ever!!!!!

[Disciple Freak]

10! I LOVE THIS CD!!!!

[earlessdog]

Love it!! one of the best cd's ever!!!!!

10! I LOVE THIS CD!!!!

thats what i'm talking about

[MisterDominator]

I voted 7, I enjoyed Beneath the Encasing of Ashes much more than their last 2 albums

[Stain of Peace]

Huge As I Lay Dying fan. I liked Frail Words Collapse a little better though, but I still get this one a 10!

[Mr. claw]

Ridiculous. Maybe you like Underoath better, but As I Lay Dying is the more technically proficient band. And Underoath, in my opinion, is much worse as far as lack of variety goes. Honestly, if you want variety, why are you listening to hardcore/metalcore?

Interesting. I listen to it because I found everything else became repetitive. And I'll agree that As I lay dying is indeed "more proficient". I prefer Underoath because (you're gonna hate me for this) I think Spencer is a better screamer and I like that he goes up an down in terms of pitch. I also think that double-bass is great and dandy, but I prefer Underoath's percussion as well. If you ask me, crazy fills > double-bass. I know, I know, the 2 or 3 fills that AILD's drummer does on the cd are great. And I wasn't trying to compare the two bands! Get off me! I was just saying that I like UO's style more. Forgive my lack of specifity. I like say, UO, The Chariot, As cities burn(before singer change), Norma Jean, etc., etc. Jeez! I like AILD a whole lot. More than some other metal bands that I will not mention for fear of more flaming. Which reminds me, have you guys heard of a band called Inhale Exhale? That's some good stuff. I really like them a lot lot lot.

[j2_da_k]

Ridiculous. Maybe you like Underoath better, but As I Lay Dying is the more technically proficient band. And Underoath, in my opinion, is much worse as far as lack of variety goes. Honestly, if you want variety, why are you listening to hardcore/metalcore?

You know what's really ridiculous? Flaming a dude just for making an opinionated statement. Honestly, if you want everyone to agree with you, why not become a communist and take over the country! Heck, why stop their! Take over the world! Or you could take over Japan. They are more technically proficient.

[earlessdog]

You know what's really ridiculous? Flaming a dude just for making an opinionated statement. Honestly, if you want everyone to agree with you, why not become a communist and take over the country! Heck, why stop their! Take over the world! Or you could take over Japan. They are more technically proficient.

Woah dude, calm down
1) He didn't blow up at all, there is not even an exclamation point in his reply
2) you just blew up

Its just opinions here everyone.

[j2_da_k]

Woah dude, calm down
1) He didn't blow up at all, there is not even an exclamation point in his reply
2) you just blew up

Its just opinions here everyone.

I have a hard time tolerating people being critical. Sorry. I did not just blow up. I gave my opinion. I wasn't aware that exclamation point count was a sign of anger. I'll remember that.

[earlessdog]

I have a hard time tolerating people being critical. Sorry. I did not just blow up. I gave my opinion. I wasn't aware that exclamation point count was a sign of anger. I'll remember that.

The exclamation point isn't always a sign of anger, I may have just read it wrong. I have a really quick temper also.

[Mr. claw]

Well you pansies got off topic, but whatever, I'll just say this. Today I listened to Define the Great Line and Shadows are Security the whole way through. Both bands exude an aura of total awesomeness and both cds were done very professionally. They are two of the most proficiently mixed cds I've ever heard, though the bass could be louder in SAS. Yet to me, SAS seemed more repetitive. SAS is what I believe is referred to in the metal industry as "SICK". Yes, it is. But I like DFTGL more because.....
1. I haven't heard it months, and hearing it made everything else seem inferior. Not a legit reason, I know.
2. I prefer Spencer's up and down vocals. Also, as good as AILD's vocalist is, I can hardly understand that dude on some songs. And when he tried going high pitch on "Control is dead", it sounded like poop to me (but I love the song). And Aaron's vocals are a definite plus for UO.
3. I really think that DFTGL has much more <i>character</i> to it that SAS. You know? SAS has some songs that are sick at first, but dang, the whole cd is, so some songs are just plain forgettable after a while. Give me a moment in SAS that compares to dramatic the pause in "Writing on the walls" and the glorious outro that follows. Dang, maybe the solo in Empty Hearts, but I don't know. And you know what? I think that the intro to "Moving for the sake of motion" is more glorious that any inrtos or breakdowns in SAS.
4. From a critic's standpoint, and not a guitarist's, how do the cds compare?

And a final note, I <i>totally</i> understand where you guys are coming from, that's just homie's opinion.

[Adam K]

Well you pansies got off topic, but whatever, I'll just say this. Today I listened to Define the Great Line and Shadows are Security the whole way through. Both bands exude an aura of total awesomeness and both cds were done very professionally. They are two of the most proficiently mixed cds I've ever heard, though the bass could be louder in SAS. Yet to me, SAS seemed more repetitive. SAS is what I believe is referred to in the metal industry as "SICK". Yes, it is. But I like DFTGL more because.....
1. I haven't heard it months, and hearing made it everything else seem inferior. Not a legit reason, I know.
2. I prefer Spencer's up and down vocals. Also, as good as AILD's vocalist is, I can hardly understand that dude on some songs. And when he tried going high pitch on "Control is dead", it sounded like poop to me (but I love the song). And Aaron's vocals are a definite plus for UO.
3. I really think that DFTGL has much more <i>character</i> to it that SAS. You know? SAS has some songs that are sick at first, but dang, the whole cd is, so some songs are just plain forgettable after a while. Give me a moment in SAS that compares to dramatic the pause in "Writing on the walls" and the glorious outro that follows. Dang, maybe the solo in Empty Hearts, but I don't know. And you know what? I think that the intro to "Moving for the sake of motion" is more glorious that any inrtos or breakdowns in SAS.
4. From a critic's standpoint, and not a guitarist's, how do the cds compare?

And a final note, I <i>totally</i> understand where you guys are coming from, that's just homie's opinion.

I agree totally.

[Mr. claw]

I agree totally.

I deeply appreciate it. I felt like a terrorist for a second when I first said that about UO vs. AILD.

[earlessdog]

Well you pansies got off topic, but whatever, I'll just say this. Today I listened to Define the Great Line and Shadows are Security the whole way through. Both bands exude an aura of total awesomeness and both cds were done very professionally. They are two of the most proficiently mixed cds I've ever heard, though the bass could be louder in SAS. Yet to me, SAS seemed more repetitive. SAS is what I believe is referred to in the metal industry as "SICK". Yes, it is. But I like DFTGL more because.....
1. I haven't heard it months, and hearing it made everything else seem inferior. Not a legit reason, I know.
2. I prefer Spencer's up and down vocals. Also, as good as AILD's vocalist is, I can hardly understand that dude on some songs. And when he tried going high pitch on "Control is dead", it sounded like poop to me (but I love the song). And Aaron's vocals are a definite plus for UO.
3. I really think that DFTGL has much more <i>character</i> to it that SAS. You know? SAS has some songs that are sick at first, but dang, the whole cd is, so some songs are just plain forgettable after a while. Give me a moment in SAS that compares to dramatic the pause in "Writing on the walls" and the glorious outro that follows. Dang, maybe the solo in Empty Hearts, but I don't know. And you know what? I think that the intro to "Moving for the sake of motion" is more glorious that any inrtos or breakdowns in SAS.
4. From a critic's standpoint, and not a guitarist's, how do the cds compare?

And a final note, I <i>totally</i> understand where you guys are coming from, that's just homie's opinion.

Will you quit comparing these two freaken cds already!
They aren't even in the same genre! Compare AILD with Shadows Fall or something, I mean come on.

[Adam K]

Will you quit comparing these two freaken cds already!
They aren't even in the same genre! Compare AILD with Shadows Fall or something, I mean come on.

And......the axe has fallen.

Well without comparison, SAS does get repetitive.

[Mr. claw]

Will you quit comparing these two freaken cds already!
They aren't even in the same genre! Compare AILD with Shadows Fall or something, I mean come on.

It's "freakin". I was bashed for my opinion, so I replied. If that bothers you, we can always mosh.

[earlessdog]

It's "freakin". I was bashed for my opinion, so I replied. If that bothers you, we can always mosh.

Fine, the mosh pit, at the AILD show tonight, be there or be at underoath. ;)

[Mr. claw]

Fine, the mosh pit, at the AILD show tonight, be there or be at underoath. ;)

Haha, I don't get to go to shows, man. I've never even moshed. But I would love it, I promise. I will leave this subject where it stands. Peace out, my homie. Haha, I went gangsta.

[LesPaulSpecial]

Best death metal band ever!
Meaning in tradegy is my fave.

[earlessdog]

Best death metal band ever!
Meaning in tradegy is my fave.

These guys are NOT a death metal band man, these guys are pure metalcore.

[Adam K]

These guys are NOT a death metal band man, these guys are pure metalcore.

I was about to say.

[conceived in fire]

I bought this CD being really stoked on the three singles/videos. But I found none of the songs after "Through Struggle" worth listening to, and the static lasting till about 1:45 on "Illusions" seems pointless to me.

In the metal world this band is pretty mediocre, but in terms of Christian bands they're one of the best. The songs sound very similar to each other, but that's like most metal albums (except for Demon Hunter's "The Triptych"). All in all a 7 from me.

[Mr. claw]

I bought this CD being really stoked on the three singles/videos. But I found none of the songs after "Through Struggle" worth listening to, and the static lasting till about 1:45 on "Illusions" seems pointless to me.

:eek: I love Morning Awaits!!11!!! And Control is Dead!!112143!! The Truth of My Perception isn't that bad either....:cry:

This band sedates me now that I have August Burns Red. :D

[Da Flufsta]

dude, I don't care what any one says, As I Lay Dying is the best Christian Metal band of today.

[earlessdog]

dude, I don't care what any one says, As I Lay Dying is the best Christian Metal band of today.

i love your dedication, these guys are amazing.

[schecter777]

I love these guys. I only listen to 4 hard/metal bands now and AILD is one of them. CD was awesome.

[Mistidon]

Great CD, like others said a little repetitive, but it has some very good moments (Through Struggle, Reflection/Repeating Yesterday, Illusions after the stupid static intro). Good vocals good lyrics, guitars are a little too "chuggy" some more melody lines would have helped the monotony in parts and differenciate the songs. Good drumming, cool guest vocals, clean vocals were good... All in all a solid effort. Some more melodies, maybe some keys or something to spice up some of the less stand out tracks would have gone a long way, but it's definatley not a bad CD by any means. IMHO at least.