Song Interpretations (merged threads)

[brokenwarrior]

Does anybody have any thoughts as to what Scott's intended meaning is behind this song?
*What is the "this" that he keeps referring to?
*Come with him where?
*He is fading?


Signs

This is not about age
Time served on the earth
doesn’t mean you grow in mind
This is not about God
Spiritual insinuations seem
to shock our nation

Come with me I’m fading
underneath the lights
Come with me
Come with me
Come with me now

This is not about race
It’s a decision to stop the
division in your life
This is not about sex
We all know sex sells and
the whole world is buying

Come with me I’m fading
underneath the lights
Come with me
Come with me
Come with me now

Can’t you see the signs?
See the signs now

Can’t you see them?
See the signs
You see them
All the signs we see them
Can’t you see them?

[MuchAfraid]

i think the song is just about something that scott had on his mind. When he say this is not about god, he is saying that all of the lyrics that he writes are not neccessarily about god, but they have spiritual insinuation that are an essential part of his psyche. i think that he is basicly raging against sterotypes and misconceptions in this song, but it has revelation -like undertones.

dave

[OnFireForGod]

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When he say this is not about god, he is saying that all of the lyrics that he writes are not neccessarily about god.
</quote>

How did you come up with that?


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[brokenwarrior]

I fail to see how you can rationalize that that specific part of the song is referring to his lyrics. What then are the rest of the "this"s
referring to in the song. It doesn't seem to fit that they are talking about his song lyrics, and it seems obvious, at least to me, that whatever "this" is - he is referring back to the same thing every time that he uses it.

[brokenwarrior]

by the way, I am not trying to attack Creed or their morals at all. I am a fan of theirs. I am just trying to figure out the song.

[Avalanche 126]

signs is basically about like the world and the spiritual side of everybody. like put ur life into the song. i am not about race, its the decision to stop the division in your life. i mean its tellin how the world is basically. he says look, the world doesnt like spiritual stuff but they do like sex. how crappy and real is that?

[unrgstrd Creed freak]

I agree with you, their is also a chance that Mark Tremonti wrote that song. (he wrote a lot more lyrics in this album) I like your "Creedomaniac guitarist"!! Ditto!

[panhead155]

I got this off of a great creed site
http://www.creedprison.cjb.net
courtesy of Ben...

This song is about labels. Everyone labels other things and other people, and a lot of the time, they are based on bad stereotypes or misinformation, and quite frankly Creed had had their share of bad reps and insults and then some! The chorus is talking about Creed losing 'their' identity, with people's opinions of the band being based on other's ideas and comments, rather than a good listen to the music. The 4 major stereotypes used today to label people appear in the lyrics. Age, religion, race and sex. Because it doesn't matter what age you are, you can still be a Creed fan. Same goes for religion and race. Scott asks for us to come with him and see the signs, see what Creed are really about. Can't you see them?

[Laceratus]

I see a spiritually confused man who turned his back on God and is paying the price. Though he knows he is "...incomplete and hollow..." because he turned his back on God.

[Strat_dude]

I agree with Roring Lambs...the part about "I'm fading" would seem to fit with that idea.
He makes some great points in that song-when i heard it, i found myself thinking "y'know, he's completely right...That doesn't say too much about our culture... :(

Strat_dude

[Laceratus]

I'm sorry panhead, but I just checked out that site...it is a good site, but I think most of the interpretations they gave of the songs sucked. I don't think they know what they are talking about most of the time. The guys on the site are defanitly anti-God if you ask me.

[panhead155]

Yeah, i agree that the interpretations suck and they prob aren't christian but i think it's a pretty good site other than that

[Laceratus]

I agree it is an awesome site....other than the fact they have never heard that Scott has said: "There is a spiritual thrust to everything I write..."

[Laceratus]

Hey, guys...

My conversation with panhead gave me an idea...Scott said that the lyrics are what you make them, so what do you think some of their songs are talking about?

I also wanted a thread where we talked about what our fav. songs are, and how some songs have helped you spiritually, emotionaly, etc.

[Strat_dude]

Any particular songs?

[stratocaster70]

i think "Faceless Man" would be a good one.

to me it seems like that its someone being convicted by the holy spirit and then accepting Jesus as there savior. if you read the words to it with that frame of mind, it all fits into place...:D

this is a cool topic. we can have a field day with this. we have about 3 albums and a bunch of non-released songs to figure out.

[Laceratus]

Faceless Man I think is the most misunderstood song. I got this from him so..the faceless man is his inner man, or his concience, and he sees the mistakes he has made, and as Strat said, he feels the holy spirit and makes the the choice to "live for always" instead of the temporary.
If you wanna get a good laugh, read the interpretation given at www.creedprison.com

I agree with you Strat70, that was good.

We could have alot of fun with this...that's why I started the thread:D

And its any song you wanna talk about.....

[Avalanche 126]

what about whos got my back now??? kinda true in the world, we have like destroyed the world as a whole and now we need brotherly (no sex (male/female)) love to get thru while still accepting Jesus and God.

[Laceratus]

good point Avalance....

then there is my absolute fav. "higher"
there is alot of rumors about meditation and all that, but I don't think that is all that true. I see a man sick of life and desiring to be taken to where he has meaning in life.

[Avalanche 126]

yea come on, "can u take me higher, to a place with golden streets,....where blind men see" how more Christian can u get??? the only place i know where there are golden streets and blind men seeing is heaven, where perfection is located. and how he wants to leave the world bc of all the depressing things

[Unregistered]

what about "let the children play"! this one talks about becoming like a child in our faith, and how adults sometimes dont' see it quite as well as children...

and "are you ready"! i think that's the most christian one of them all! just read it! the whole song talks about the second coming!

"what if" has christian parts...if you look...

like u said...there are A LOT and it would take a big forum to discuss them all

[Laceratus]

"Never Die" yeah, that's a cool song...

"What If" another cool song....yeah, it has some Christian metaphors in it...

"Are You Ready" (my sig).......hm........I dunno, that song is kind of a theme song for Creed "dont wanna follow, down roads been walked before...." kinda talks about "organized religion" as they like to say......

I like you enthusiasm unregistered

[Laceratus]

Originally posted by Unregistered
and "are you ready"! i think that's the most christian one of them all! just read it! the whole song talks about the second coming!


Here's one for you about the second coming:

The rage in my eyes
Could have compared to the eye of a sun
Then rain
Took it's course through the hands of the Son
Repent for all time
The world is at war leaving all fault behind

So Is this the end for us my friend?
So Is this the end for us my friend?

The stains in the sky
Are there to remind us of man and his fight
When two worlds collide
One steals the life like a theif in the night
So look to the sky
He hold the keys for your life and mine

So Is this the end for us my friend?
So Is this the end for us my friend?
So Is this the end for us my friend?

Well as though we rise
As the day breaks the dawn
And as the moon hides the sun
Oh, the sun

No more sorrow
All those crying days are gone
No more sorrow, now it's gone
Now it's gone
Now it's gone

So Is this the end for us my friend?
So Is this the end for us my friend?
So Is this the end for us my friend?
So Is this the end for us my friend?

"Is This The End"

[Unregistered]

Thanx roring lams...i'm definitely a big fan of creed and i've been trying to figure out where they are spiritually for a long time...especially by looking at the lyrics. it's a VERY interesting and challenging topic.

Yes, "is this the end" is quite certainly a song about the second coming. i guess that one slipped my mind. i have all three of their albums, and several of their rare tracks and b-sides, and i can tell you...that band is definitly searching. it seems like they're trying to believe, trying to seek the truth. And it seems like they know what the truth is, but they're having a hard time accepting it, and transisting.

agree?

[Laceratus]

I think Scotty is searching........Mark and Flip, I dunno....

though I hear Scotty say that he was comfortable with his beliefs right now.....but, :o oh my gosh, I'm a mod and I'm talking about Creed's faith outside the thread........bad, bad, bad.

Do you have "In the Grain" or is it "out of the grain"? I can't remember.....they released it in '96.....under Blue Collar.

[MatrixManXCreed]

"In The Grain"? Are you sure that's them? Or some other band? I've seen a lot of fake songs that people say are Creed but are wrong. But I could be wrong about this one...........

[Laceratus]

it's a single......before their gl;ory days. back when they were doing their 4 hour shows and they had more written more songs than they pl;ay now:D

[CuteGuitarChick]

Originally posted by Roring Lams
I think Scotty is searching........Mark and Flip, I dunno....

though I hear Scotty say that he was comfortable with his beliefs right now.....but, :o oh my gosh, I'm a mod and I'm talking about Creed's faith outside the thread........bad, bad, bad.

Do you have "In the Grain" or is it "out of the grain"? I can't remember.....they released it in '96.....under Blue Collar.

i think its "into the grain"

[Unregistered]

What is up with "Higher"? I mean, he talks about streets of gold, blind men seeing, and how much he wants to be there, but i saw on a website that this song is talking about his dreams, not heaven. He's talking about how he would like to escape this messed up world, and slip into the world of his dreams. He talks about how wonderful the world of his dreams is, not heaven.

Any takers?

[Laceratus]

yeah.......that's what its about. that song has always had special meaning for me because I too am tired of living in this crap, and I am searching for somehting to take me higher, to give me meaning in life..

[Laceratus]

Originally posted by CuteGuitarChick


i think its "into the grain"

YESSS!!!...thnks

[CuteGuitarChick]

Originally posted by Roring Lams


YESSS!!!...thnks

lol, no prob. i just d/l-ed and i'm listening to it now

[Laceratus]

:kshock: stop making me jealous:D so's it like anything good?

[CuteGuitarChick]

Originally posted by Roring Lams
:kshock: stop making me jealous:D so's it like anything good?

well, i dunno....... its different than their H.C. album, and i haven't heard M.O.P........ i think its kinda harder sounding.

[Laceratus]

interesting.....sounds kinda sweet though....yeah, they did have a different sound at first.....

[stratocaster70]

i hate to be honest with you but the "into the grain" i downloaded it said it was a very rare demo, it was not creed. i hope no one is offended by this but i have heard stapps voice enough and it dont sound like him to me. i'll admit ihave been wrong before but i think i'm pretty sure on this one.:(

[Laceratus]

thanks Strat70..........I dunno, I'd have to listen to it. but I trust you........

[CuteGuitarChick]

Originally posted by stratocaster70
i hate to be honest with you but the "into the grain" i downloaded it said it was a very rare demo, it was not creed. i hope no one is offended by this but i have heard stapps voice enough and it dont sound like him to me. i'll admit ihave been wrong before but i think i'm pretty sure on this one.:(

thats what i was thinking too!

[Laceratus]

sure ya were;)

I'm kinda thinkin that "Who's Got My Back" is about his divorce....anybody agree or have anything to say about it?

I ahve heard people interpret "My Sacrifice" as being about his divorce.....I dunno if I'd agree with that. "...perfect love that you gave to me...." she divorced him....how can that be perfect love? also would he call her "my friend" if he really loves her as much as he says he does? not that I want him to say "babe" or something....:D

I personaly think MS is to God.......how he turned his back and how he wants to "SAy hello again"

[Adam]

I have merged the two thread "Song Interpretations" and "Song Explanation" into one thread for more clarity. I hope this isn't a problem.:)

[Chris]

I have a feeling it could be God he's talking to because the chorus itself:

When you are with me, I'm free
I'm careless, I believe,
Above all the others, we'll fly,
this brings tears to my eyes,
My sacrifice.

I mean that is one heck of a love if you describe it like that.

[Laceratus]

Originally posted by Chris
I have a feeling it could be God he's talking to because the chorus itself:

When you are with me, I'm free
I'm careless, I believe,
Above all the others, we'll fly,
this brings tears to my eyes,
My sacrifice.

I mean that is one heck of a love if you describe it like that.


some people have problems with "above all the others..." because God does not single out a person........but hey, the chorus is Marks stuff...........an he is a professing universalist, so.......

[Chris]

It doesn't necessarily mean that they'll be above everyone it's just the way he feels. or that's how I interpret it anyways.

[Danny]

Originally posted by Roring Lams


some people have problems with "above all the others..." because God does not single out a person........but hey, the chorus is Marks stuff...........an he is a professing universalist, so.......

I personally think Mark and Phillips are holding the band back spiritually. Who agrees?

But anyway, about the subject at hand. I'm having trouble figuring out what "Beautiful" is about, and "What If?" sounds pretty angry to me, anybody want to clue me in? :confused: :)

[Chris]

Originally posted by mNighthawk007


I personally think Mark and Phillips are holding the band back spiritually. Who agrees?

But anyway, about the subject at hand. I'm having trouble figuring out what "Beautiful" is about, and "What If?" sounds pretty angry to me, anybody want to clue me in? :confused: :)


That first statement seemed a little nasty to me.

If the song is about being angry then that's acceptable anger is a normal emotion that everyone goes through. Just because someone writes a song about it doesn't make the song bad. Sorry if that's not what you were getting at there but that's what I thought you might be getting at.

[Danny]

Originally posted by Chris



That first statement seemed a little nasty to me.

If the song is about being angry then that's acceptable anger is a normal emotion that everyone goes through. Just because someone writes a song about it doesn't make the song bad. Sorry if that's not what you were getting at there but that's what I thought you might be getting at.

That's nowhere near what I was getting at, in fact, What If is one of my favorite songs! I was just curious if someone might have some insight on their meanings.

[Laceratus]

yeah, scotty has said that Mark and Flip do hold them back....

yeah, beautiful is about experiences they had with ex-girlfriends.....
What it is just scotty ranting and raving about people holding him back and judging him for his beliefs....

[Fuzz]

Lol, call me a dork.....but what is universalism? Like what do those folks believe? -Adam

[Chris]

Originally posted by Fuzz
Lol, call me a dork.....but what is universalism? Like what do those folks believe? -Adam

I won't call you a dork but universalism is basically what the name implies. it's the idea that all roads lead to God.

[Laceratus]

yeah......
I'll have to find en exact quote, but he talked about it at www.marktremonti.net