Until My Heart Caves In [Archive] - Christian Guitar Forum

ChurchPunk 2

08-30-2005, 06:01 PM

I got it in the mail yesterday and listend to it. The best song by far is the first, Clap Your Hands. The rest was too soft...I would say that this has to be there least strongest CD yet. Oh, and there first CD dosent count. Tyler sings way to much, and there arent enough riffs, and no solos. Pretty crazy for a band that wrote Start A Fire, eh? Still not a bad CD, but not nearly as good as it should have been from Audio Adrenaline. Your thoughts?

SupaNova

08-30-2005, 11:09 PM

I haven't decided whether I'm going to buy the album or not. Mostly because every review I've read said that Mark doesn't sing nearly as much as he usually does. Not that Tyler is a bad singer, but it's not really Audio A without Mark dominating on vocals.

DKelly

08-30-2005, 11:17 PM

Very true. I'm kinda wondering whether or not to buy this. I might just stick with "Worldwide".

Brent

08-31-2005, 08:37 AM

Wow, I've had an advance copy of it for a couple weeks now and after one listen I said it was their STRONGEST disc yet. Yes, it's mainly Tyler, but where Mark does sing his voice sounds more and more tired with each album and Tyler's sounds stronger and stronger. Mark's voice has always sounded strained and like he should expect vocal problems from the way he sings, and it appears now that it's come to a head. I also wouldn't say the rest of the album after track one is soft...it's no softer than track one is as a whole. The title track is one of my favorites, as well as "King", "Undefeated" (Soft? Not hardly) and "All Around Me".

So did anyone else read that the new Audio A disc had some packaging problems and that the yet-to-be-released Switchfoot disc was inserted in the package instead of Audio A's? They said you could exchange it, but I think I'd keep it and just go buy a new one.

aero!

08-31-2005, 11:48 AM

So did anyone else read that the new Audio A disc had some packaging problems and that the yet-to-be-released Switchfoot disc was inserted in the package instead of Audio A's? They said you could exchange it, but I think I'd keep it and just go buy a new one.

So are you saying the actual Nothing is Sound (Switchfoot) CD is in the case of where Until My Heart Caves In (Audio Adrenaline) is supposed to be? If so, that's insane! I wonder who screwed up and how it happened...

But come on people, 'Until My Heart Caves In" sounds like a CD full of slow songs. Duh!http://emoticons4u.neotrek.net/cool/271.gif

Brent

08-31-2005, 01:18 PM

Yes, that's what I'm saying.

If you're saying the title makes it sound like a CD full of slow songs, I'd have to disagree. Makes it sound like something passionate and urgent...and I don't mean passionate in the love song sense of the word.

guitar man4

08-31-2005, 05:04 PM

I'd half to agree with Brent. I got this cd yesterday and I was very impressed. Tyler does sing almost half of the songs on the album, but he sings them very well. And this cd is in no way soft...I think that this one is even harder than Worldwide. I especially like "Undefeated". That song rocks.

ChurchPunk 2

09-01-2005, 05:58 PM

I think it's soft...dosen't mean its like...you know, contemperary radio soft, expecailly Clap Your Hands and Undefeated, but the whole album just seems, I dont know, just not as rockin' as previous efforts. And nothing on this album reaches the brillance of Worldwide:One or Start a Fire. Mabey its just me. And I like Marks voice, even though its raw. It sounds more rock, where I think Tylers voice sounds more pop. I just dont like his voice much, even though it has gotten better. I like the rawness of Marks voice, and I always have. I have all there albums, and his voice is just good. Plus, they have played thousands of shows. They are a very old band, remember, and Mark has been there since the beginning, singing every show since then. Anyway, I just couldnt get into this one...mabey it will grow on me. It just seemed like a sequal to Lift. Not that thats a bad thing....but whatever. To each his own.

Brent

09-01-2005, 11:49 PM

There's also a lot of money to be had through royalties from radio airplay. Not that they're sellouts by any means, but you've gotta have that happy medium between what radio wants and what the long-time fans want. They've gotta live just like anybody else, and album sales aren't where the money is at. Think about it, if your local station plays Audio A 10 times a day (probably more than that) and they get 4 cents per play (which is about the base rate), that's 40 cents per day from your one radio station. Multiply that across maybe 2000 Christian stations and that's 80 bucks a day...times 7 days a week, that's $560 per week just from that one song being played. There are also other incentives that can raise the per-play payout to even 8 cents per play. That doesn't count merch sales, album sales, touring dollars, etc. etc. People wonder why bands like Audio A, Third Day and Relient K will make alternate "cheesy" versions of their songs that are softer for radio just so they'll play them.

All that to say, I think this album is and will be VERY radio-friendly.

ChurchPunk 2

09-03-2005, 10:20 PM

Thats a good point, Brent. It would just be nice to see the band break away from that and do it soley for God and the music...and not the radio. Anyway, I was reading an interview and Mark said there next one was gonna be a real rocker...he said they were gonna break away from the worship trens that is so common now adays. It will be nice. Mabey we will finnaly get a sequal to Bloom.

Brent

09-04-2005, 01:18 PM

Well you've gotta make a living somehow, and the happy medium between radio and full-on rock is about where they're at now I'd say. You can't go on the road 285 days a year leaving any normal job behind and make a living still just by doing it for God and the music. Yes, that remains your primary focus, but a dude and his family have gotta eat.

ChurchPunk 2

09-04-2005, 09:43 PM

Yeah, I agree. But look at Bloom. It had 4 #1 hits, and it was an awesome CD. That was really balanced between the two extremes...I just think this one is more on the quiet side of that. Just my opinion though. Your idea of a heavy song and my idea could be completely diffrent. Its all in view, really. What did you think about Bloom?

Brent

09-04-2005, 09:55 PM

Bloom had 4 #1 *rock* radio hits, though. The difference in the royalties you'd receive for 4 #1 rock hits versus 4 #1 CHR/Inspo hits is like going from a Janitor's paycheck to president of the company. Whole lot more of the non-rock stations out there.

Bloom was great...I really liked Some Kind of Zombie, myself, but the face of music has really changed since then. What was "hard" then is now just called straight up rock and what's hard now is more of this emo/screamo/metalcore/_____core crap with the constant screaming and detuned guitars. I agree that the new stuff isn't the loudness or rock level of what the older stuff was, but that's just not what's in now. The point of making the music is futile if no one will listen to it or buy it.

ChurchPunk 2

09-05-2005, 09:59 AM

Yeah, your right. Thats a really good point...I have to agree with you on that. If they released Bloom now there is no way it would have been as acclaimed by the public as it was. Guess thats right. I really like that kind of straight rock, and I too loved Some Kind Of Zombie. I guess its just the industry today, you know, you have to fit in to some categorey, and it has to sound like everything else. It's very rare for a creative band to get anywhere anymore, cause the record labels only want what they know will sell...and what the mass of culture will accept. So I guess that is a good reason why AudioA did that...still, I dont think its as good as it could have been from a musical standpoint, but you make very good points. So it makes since. I dont know. What did you think about Underdog, Lift, and Worldwide? They just shift styles so much...

manu

09-08-2005, 03:33 AM

I really liked UMHCI. I didnt think i'd like it as much as i do. My favorite song off the album is Melody... i like UMHCI, Undefeated and CYH too.

"cause the promise can, yeah the promise can, yeah the promise can keep me til my heart caves in" <3

Brent

09-08-2005, 08:13 AM

Oh the lovely acronymns...

manu

09-08-2005, 04:02 PM

=D oops..sorry for being such a newbie.. should i not use acronymns? idk.

guitar man4

09-08-2005, 04:03 PM

I'm going to see Audio Adrenaline tomorrow night...I'm not sure whether they will be playing their UMHCI set yet but if they do it should be interesting to see what Mark does while Tyler plays and sings all of the songs. :-/

guitar man4

09-08-2005, 04:05 PM

=D oops..sorry for being such a newbie.. should i not use acronymns? idk.

I just did in my last post... :) but I'm not a n00b...at least I don't think so...

fish_lover

09-08-2005, 07:12 PM

this cd isnt as punk rock as it previously was(not that it sounded like it too much) but rather it sounded more like old school rock. audio A's bringing back their sound againg if you ask me. my personal favorite is Untill My Heart Caves In. the chorus is outstanding on that track.

if any doubts, you should go2 their site and check the songs out for yourself. :yep:

ChurchPunk 2

09-08-2005, 07:43 PM

My knowledge fails me. Dont laugh, but what is an acronym again? And I sitll think clap your hands is the best song, however, some of the otherones are starting to grow on me.

rockerclb

09-08-2005, 08:25 PM

when mark isnt singing he kinda wanders around on stage its a little weird

Brent

09-08-2005, 11:05 PM

My knowledge fails me. Dont laugh, but what is an acronym again? And I sitll think clap your hands is the best song, however, some of the otherones are starting to grow on me.

Acronym...like when you use the first letter of each word of a phrase, title, etc. to notate what you're talking about. Like UMHCI for Until My Heart Caves In...or CYH for Clap Your Hands. How come nobody talks about K? K is a good song, too...heh I just think it's funny how people throw acronyms around like it makes them sound like they're "in the know" or something. I mean, ITK.

As far as this album changing their set...it won't that much. In an interview on JesusFreakHideout.com Mark and Tyler talk about how new albums only change their live shows by about 15% because they've got so much material they can cover.

guitar man4

09-11-2005, 05:45 PM

Yeah, when I saw them Friday night they only played 4 songs from the new album. The ones they did (Clap Your Hands, Until My Heart Caves In, Starting Over, and King) were all played very well. When you're listening to the CD you just can't feel the excitement that's at a live show. Even when they played Starting Over they were rocking out. The whole concert roccked, it was probably the best Audio Adrenaline concert that I've ever been to. :D I'll have concert pictures in my blog in a few days.

ChurchPunk 2

09-11-2005, 08:12 PM

Thanks Brent, that was completely out of my mind for a second. But yeah, thats cool they dont do to much. Hey, and do they still play worldwide:one as the first song at there shows?

guitar man4

09-12-2005, 04:09 PM

Thanks Brent, that was completely out of my mind for a second. But yeah, thats cool they dont do to much. Hey, and do they still play worldwide:one as the first song at there shows?

They opened with Clap Your Hands and then did Worldwide...Here's the order of the songs to the best of my short-term memory...

Clap Your Hands
Worldwide
Mighty Good Leader
Big House
Until My heart Caves In
Dirty
Hands and Feet
Ocean Floor
Starting Over
We're A Band
Beautiful
Get Down/Cowbell :D
Start a Fire/We're an American Band
King

ChurchPunk 2

09-17-2005, 08:32 AM

Thanks! I wish they wouldn't do so much worship stuff, though. And I dont think ending a concert with a slow song is a good idea, but, you know, its not my band. I would do more stuff from Bloom if I was them.

fenderman2

09-18-2005, 04:34 PM

I saw them in concert at six flags in georgia. I think they should play more from HIT PARADE. I don't really care for "Big House." the crowd goes nuts over a song that I don't think is all that great but it's also one of their classics. I've seen Audio Adrenaline 4 times in my life, and the other times were better than this one.

HolyRockJfreak

09-30-2005, 04:50 PM

They opened with Clap Your Hands and then did Worldwide...Here's the order of the songs to the best of my short-term memory...

Clap Your Hands
Worldwide
Mighty Good Leader
Big House
Until My heart Caves In
Dirty
Hands and Feet
Ocean Floor
Starting Over
We're A Band
Beautiful
Get Down/Cowbell :D
Start a Fire/We're an American Band
King
Audio A was always known for their impressive cow bell :clap:

fallinguprawks

11-11-2005, 12:42 PM

What are you guys, crazy? Ty is one of the best contemporary singers! Mark never really had a very good voice, even before it was totally ruined. Ty sings lead in over half the songs, and he has developed his voice even more than in the last few cds. As for their writing and music itself, I think their first stuff totally sucked, Underdog was okay, they peaked at Lift, WW was almost as good as lift, and Until my Heart Caves In is almost as good as WW. I'm glad I got it just because Ty sings on it so much. Mark is a great writer, but he just doesn't have a very good voice, in my opinion. I prefer singers with more clean voices, like Matt Theisin, Jessy Rigbordy, or Tyler Burkum. Phil Joel even has a pretty good voice. Being a vocal major, I know I base way too much off of the tonal quality of the singer's voice, but that's just me.

HolyRockJfreak

11-13-2005, 01:51 PM